I am Grabbing My Crotch as I Write- Marshawn is Hall of Fame

[savvyman]

Quality running Back

No Running Back in NFL history has ran harder.

No NFL running back in history makes more yards after contact.

No NFL running back has ever ran with more Heart & Guts. (and by the way Marshawn also plays the game in an exceptionally intelligent manner)

I am tired of all the Stupid Conversation as to "Whether the Seahawks will bring Marshawn back this year"

The only conversation that we should be having about Marshwan Lynch is whether Marshawn is "The Greatest Running Back of all time"?

And anytime Lynch is named in the press it should be prefaced with "Future Hall of Famer".

So let me be the first to put this out to Public Consumption - Marshawn Lynch has ran the ball in an exceptional, elite manner that if there is any justice in the selection process MUST result in a place in the NFL hall of fame.

So enjoy Marshawn every time he runs the ball because you are watching a future hall of famer run.

Thoughts?

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pete-prisco/24986411

[RiverDog]

If the subject is hardest hitting running back, yards after contact, or hardest to tackle, Lynch deserves to be in that conversation, and I can only think of a handful of running backs that I have seen that should be included, such as Earl Campbell and Larry Czonka. FYI Czonka is the only running back to have ever gotten called for unnecessary roughness while he was carrying the ball.

But greatest running back of all time? Lynch isn't even close. For my money, the greatest running back of all time was Jimmy Brown. Best combination of speed, power, and elusiveness that the game has ever seen IMO.

I have no doubt that we will attempt to bring back Lynch for another season. He is still has a year left on his contract and I can see us tweaking the deal slightly to sweeten the pot. But our decision as to whether or not we want him back won't be the determining factor if he returns next season. The door will be left open for him should he want to play another year or two with us. The determining factor will be whether or not he wants to play for us again.

[curmudgeon]

Marshawn marches to his own beast. He may walk after the Super Bowl, having had enough of the pounding and incessant persecution by the league. Undeniably, Marshawn is the heartbeat and sets the tone for this team. He is irreplaceable and it would be great to lock him up for a few more SB runs..........

[Hawktawk]

Lynch is Charles Haleying himself with the HOF voters with his antics. If he has another 2-3 years of similar production along with his dramatic plays and postseason success he definitely will have the pedigree for the HOF. But hes hurting his chances by seeming antisocial.
Schneider was interviewed however and was asked if he was tired of Marshawns act. He answered"I kind of like his act" LOL.
I hope Beast is back.I hope he has 200 yards next Sunday first.Ill take up a collection for the pickle wiggle fine.

[RiverDog]

Lynch is Charles Haleying himself with the HOF voters with his antics. If he has another 2-3 years of similar production along with his dramatic plays and postseason success he definitely will have the pedigree for the HOF. But hes hurting his chances by seeming antisocial.
Schneider was interviewed however and was asked if he was tired of Marshawns act. He answered"I kind of like his act" LOL.
I hope Beast is back.I hope he has 200 yards next Sunday first.Ill take up a collection for the pickle wiggle fine.

The threshold for HOF admittance seems to be 10 years and Lynch is in his 8th season, so the 2-3 years at the same level is about right. A couple more rings might get him over the hump. You're right about his anti social behavior hurting his chances. A lot of the balloting process is political in nature.

Take what John Schneider says in public with a grain of salt. He's not going to say anything bad about one of his players, nor will Pete. What we don't know is what is talked about behind closed doors, and I think that there's a pretty good chance that the Hawks F.O. is not happy with Lynch's antics. I don't think the level of dissatisfaction is to the point where it would keep them from bringing him back, but I don't think there's much doubt that they wish Lynch wouldn't do some of the things he's been doing.

As far as the pecker grab goes, I don't approve of it and I don't blame the league for wanting to discourage such behavior, but it's not a big enough deal with me to cause me not to want him on my team. If he does it in the SB..and hopefully he has multiple opportunities... look for the league to strengthen the rules on TD celebrations.

[Hawk Sista]

He's a Hall of Famer to me. All of his behavior the NFL doesn't like doesn't Impact what happens between the lines. Brady and his cheating ways will get a pass. I'd rather have my star say nothing than whine like the beloved Aaron Rodgers.

He may well not get voted in, because those people voting are the ones who want to shove a mike in his face when it is clearly übER uncomfortable to him and he's paid dearly for that. I hope he stays a hawk and I hope the voters objectively look at his body of work. I wouldn't want another back.

[NorthHawk]

If the Seahawks win next week, he will have 2 rings which by its very nature raises his profile.
I think he's worthy, but as said above, many of those voting are also those who he is ignoring.
The crotch grab? It's a non issue unless you're watching for it, but I wonder why he doesn't defend himself by saying he wears a jock and is adjusting it like Baseball players.
Personally, I'm not a crotch watcher so I didn't notice it until it was pointed out by someone else. It's not as if he's standing over the ball gyrating like Michael Jackson.

As to whether he's back next year, I think it's his decision. He's under contract for 5 million and can make 7 million if he plays in every game (minus non talking/crotch grabbing fines).

[HumanCockroach]

I do worry that he is , as someone else said, Charles Hayleying himself, I would use another player that had issues with the media, Ricky "running" Waters had a LOT of issues with the media early in his career, and they latched on and pumped it up, and he probably never will reside in the hall.

That isn't to say I don't agree with a HOF viability, nor that I don't think he deserves to be included, just that, the media and NFL has a lot of sway in that voting, and can make it difficult or damn near impossible for a player to be inducted if they so choose.

[RiverDog]

I do worry that he is , as someone else said, Charles Hayleying himself, I would use another player that had issues with the media, Ricky "running" Waters had a LOT of issues with the media early in his career, and they latched on and pumped it up, and he probably never will reside in the hall.

That isn't to say I don't agree with a HOF viability, nor that I don't think he deserves to be included, just that, the media and NFL has a lot of sway in that voting, and can make it difficult or damn near impossible for a player to be inducted if they so choose.

It's been a highly debated topic for decades and across all sports, the most notable of which is Pete Rose's exclusion from Cooperstown. Like it or not, there's more to a HOF candidate's resume than on field performance.

[HumanCockroach]

Yeah, I'm aware RD, and while I disagree with it on principle ( barring some sort of criminal activity that is horrific, or blatant cheating... You listening Bill and Tom??) I understand it ( or at least I understand the process). Unfortunate, as IMHO onfield performance ( and definitely NOT how a player interacts with the media, or even the league's powers that be) should be the prevailing factor in how those votes go.

[Distant Relative]

I was grabbing my crotch while reading this thread.

[monkey]

If the subject is hardest hitting running back, yards after contact, or hardest to tackle, Lynch deserves to be in that conversation, and I can only think of a handful of running backs that I have seen that should be included, such as Earl Campbell and Larry Czonka. FYI Czonka is the only running back to have ever gotten called for unnecessary roughness while he was carrying the ball.

But greatest running back of all time? Lynch isn't even close. For my money, the greatest running back of all time was Jimmy Brown. Best combination of speed, power, and elusiveness that the game has ever seen IMO.

This shows our age, in that I remember seeing Czonka and Campbell play, though I wasn't yet born when Brown was destroying the NFL.
I agree on all these points. Brown was the single greatest. Period. The man absolutely destroyed the NFL, he was EASILY the single best player in all of football, regardless of position, for at least five years, and it really wasn't close.
The best comparison to Brown, from another sport would be to say he was the Wilt Chamberlain of his era.

Here's the thing about Lynch, it sucks that he spent a few years in Buffalo not doing very much, due to off field stuff, otherwise this wouldn't even be a topic...but of course, the Seahawks would have never been able to trade for him either.
Lynch needs at least one more absolutely DOMINANT season just to even get thought of, when you have guys like Jerome Bettis who aren't in yet.
Much as I love the guy and think that he absolutely deserves to be in just for what he's done as the bell cow here in Seattle, it probably won't happen.

Take consolation in the fact that, he probably doesn't care that much anyway, and the Seahawks will DEFINITELY honor him, maybe retire his number.
If it were up to me, he'd definitely be in...it ain't though, it's up to those media guys he refuses to talk to and constantly ticks off.

[HumanCockroach]

Personally I have always felt there are just a handful of "special" backs that are in the NFL at any one time, and most if not all deserves inclusion, it's hard for me to put a finger on what makes those backs "special" but I'm certainly not swayed by what team they play for, nor simply rushing totals, there is a little something extra these guys bring, and IMHO Lynch has that.....

For the record, I NEVER felt that Bettis had that, nor do I feel Shady, Forte or Charles has that currently, I did NOT feel that Alexander nor Curt ( though I believe pre knee injury, he was indeed that back) did amongst those that played for Seattle, and Warren being discussed is a joke. Honestly, Lynch is the ONLY Seattle back I feel even belongs in the conversation, and that has little to do with him currently playing for this team, and everything to do with that "extra" he brings to the field each and every play. The man has an indomitable will, that never wavers.

[Zorn76]

IMO, Lynch will need over 12,000 yds and over 100 career TD'S to have a legit shot. That position is as dependent on raw numbers, just like QB, among other things.

He'll need 3 more seasons similar to what we've seen over the last 3 yrs to be in that conversation. Winning another SB - and having a big statistical day this time - wouldn't hurt either.

Beyond that, he does have some other intangibles in his favor. "Beast Quake" run vs. the Saints in the playoffs 4 yrs ago is regarded as one of the best in league history. It created that signature name that seems to help players. His style in general is respected by HOF RB's, and the hunch here is many would be in favor of his enshrinement, provided he achieves the desired statistical numbers.

The press (voters) can be forgiving. He wouldn't a 1st time lock, but if he holds up his end, he could get in. Gotta have those numbers, though.

[RiverDog]

Personally I have always felt there are just a handful of "special" backs that are in the NFL at any one time, and most if not all deserves inclusion, it's hard for me to put a finger on what makes those backs "special" but I'm certainly not swayed by what team they play for, nor simply rushing totals, there is a little something extra these guys bring, and IMHO Lynch has that.....

For the record, I NEVER felt that Bettis had that, nor do I feel Shady, Forte or Charles has that currently, I did NOT feel that Alexander nor Curt ( though I believe pre knee injury, he was indeed that back) did amongst those that played for Seattle, and Warren being discussed is a joke. Honestly, Lynch is the ONLY Seattle back I feel even belongs in the conversation, and that has little to do with him currently playing for this team, and everything to do with that "extra" he brings to the field each and every play. The man has an indomitable will, that never wavers.

The only RB that his HOF quality in this era is Peterson, and this recent scandal with him may keep him out. Lynch is close, but I don't see him getting there. He is the best Seahawk RB, no bout adoubt it.

I do want to echo your comments about Lynch. I personally don't like a lot of the stuff he does, thought his standing up the POTUS was disrespectful, his holdout unjustified, his crotch grabs obscene, and his not talking to the press childish. But I have a HUGE amount of respect for him in that he always gives 100% and then some when it comes to on the field performance no matter what the off field issues are. In Earl's words, he's a warrior.

[savvyman]

The truth is that off the field Marshawn is a great guy.

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/12/09/marshawn-lynch-seattle-seahawks-nfl/

[Hawktown]

personally i feel if you do not respect the POTUS then why would you show him respect. I would tell him off on camera even if the country thought I was crazy for what i had to say. F the POTUS! you are entitled to your own opinion though just as i and lynch are as well.

[savvyman]

Interesting - Look what got posted on NFL.com just 2 hours after this thread was started:


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000462180/article/marshawn-lynch-bound-for-hall-of-fame-with-super-bowl-win?campaign=Twitter_writers_debate

[RiverDog]

personally i feel if you do not respect the POTUS then why would you show him respect. I would tell him off on camera even if the country thought I was crazy for what i had to say. F the POTUS! you are entitled to your own opinion though just as i and lynch are as well.

It's not the person that holds the office that deserves respect, it's the office they hold.

[savvyman]

Great visual breakdown of the Key Marshawn Lynch runs during the Greenbay game. Pure greatness.


http://nflbreakdowns.com/lynch-vs-the-packers/

[c_hawkbob]

personally i feel if you do not respect the POTUS then why would you show him respect. I would tell him off on camera even if the country thought I was crazy for what i had to say. F the POTUS! you are entitled to your own opinion though just as i and lynch are as well.

I thought we were staying away from political soapboxing here. I don't care to hear about your opinion of the POTUS (the person or the office).

[Hawktown]

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I thought we were staying away from political soapboxing here. I don't care to hear about your opinion of the POTUS (the person or the office).[/quote]

Your right c_hawkbob. Sorry about that, i will leave those type comments in the off topic from now on.

[c_hawkbob]

Thanks man, I appreciate it.

[Zorn76]

c-bob - Who do you think the next president will be?

Kidding

#HopeLynchhasagreatgame:)

[RiverDog]

c-bob - Who do you think the next president will be?

Kidding

#HopeLynchhasagreatgame:)

That's too easy. Don't give him any softball questions. Everyone knows that the next POTUS wild be Russell Wilson.

[c_hawkbob]

c-bob - Who do you think the next president will be?

Kidding

#HopeLynchhasagreatgame:)

That's easy. Russell Wilson.

Beat me to it!

[RiverDog]

Beat me to it!

Brilliant minds think alike!

[Hawktown]

hmmmmmmm????

[Hawk Sista]

I thought Richard Sherman was our next POTUS?

http://youtu.be/WwMONEPz4yA