HawkWow wrote:Football in particular?
I think most of you are dialed in on how betting football works. But I am seeing so much misinformation out there, like "Vegas lost money today", that I am literally frightened. We all know gambling is not a game and there's a few posters here I would like to assist if you have questions.
On top of my other crazy stories, I also ran book for over 20 years ( only chips...never real money). I have been involved with gambling at every level and educated by literally the very best. I will not give inaccurate information, so there should be no reason for debate. I don't care if that sounds arrogant. If that's what it takes to keep people from throwing away their money...so be it. I wasn't always so nice.
I will not pick winners for people. If I could do that with enough regularity to offer such advice, I wouldn't have time to be on a discussion board. I will offer you proven strategies, sound fundamentals and most importantly, fact and truth. Why? My brother wanted me to be nicer. I am being nicer.
BUT...There are also people that I don't give a rat's ass about and tons of a-holes that frequent this and every board. I don't even want to know how much it cost me to learn what I know, but I'm sure not giving this information to people I dislike or disrespect. I would sooner take possession of their cars, boats and college funds. With that, I would prefer to answer your questions by way of PM. So if you have questions, please contact me using that method.
My first piece of advice?...don't gamble. It seldom ends well. I promise.
Eaglehawk wrote:I too have studied a few games. Doesn't end bad for me always. But sometimes I am in a downward spiral that is best beaten by just stopping. I will hit you up.
FolkCrusader wrote:That's very nice of you H-wow. I'm not personally much of a gambler but I do love reading about strategies the sharps use. Often it seems like a whole lot of work
Vegaseahawk wrote:There's better odds games than betting on football scores.-River Dog
Yes, but if you are like me, & playing small amounts, ($100 or less), you actually get value for your money. An average football game lasts 3 hours. Let's say you decide to play craps instead because the odds are better. Craps is the game with the best odds of all casino games. You'l be hard pressed to find a table with less than a $5 minimum. So you take that $100 that you were going to bet on a football game & bet it on the craps table. You could either bet it all on a 1 roll bet, or choose to play the pass line & follow the shooter to conclusion of his point. At $5, a pass line bet usually will conclude within a few minutes. So you'll either win or lose the point you bet on in anywhere from 1 to infinite rolls of the dice, but on average, the shooter either hits his point or rolls a 7 within 5 minutes. So at $5 every 5 minutes, you are entertained for a minimum of 20 minutes. Obviously, you aren't going to lose every pass line bet, so lets say you hit your point around 45% of the time, which is on the generous side of being realistic. You'll wind up losing your $100 after about an hour. If you put that same amount on a football game, you can sit there in the sports book & drink & watch for 3 hours, so your value is triple that of a $100 investment in a craps game, which is considered the best odds. I bet on football for entertainment. It makes things more interesting. I will get more involved in a game if I've got money on it. I remember watching the butt fumble by Sanchez & laughing because I never would have been watching that game if I didn't have money on it.
Zorn76 wrote:HawkWow,
Thanks for the reply and the pm.
It's all for fun. I keep track of every season that I've bet on, with none of them being a full 16 weeks of wagers to begin with. This season was one of 3 that saw me on the minus side out of the past 7. I do nothing in the postseason, except for the SB, and even then that isn't for much - 50 at most.
Parlays and teasers are fround upon by most for any number of reasons, but I still find them the most fun, especially when they're 10 buck cards to begin with.
Vegaseahawk wrote:What Hawkwow is referring to is what is called a round robin parlay. It is a method of hedging your bet. Kind of like buying insurance if you will. In a 3 team round robin bet, you are betting on every possible combination of 2 of your 3 teams winning in addition to the 3 team bet. This is all rolled up into 1 ticket so that you can break even if you hit 2 of 3.
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