NorthHawk wrote:It might not exonerate him, but it could get him off the hook on technicalities.
c_hawkbob wrote:He ain't found a way out of anything, all that report addresses is the Wells report, not Brady's refusal to cooperate with a league investigation (which is a very much bigger deal).
He'll still get at least 2 weeks, and that's only if he gives up the goods he refused to last time.
Hawktawk wrote:Yes RD and add to that the fact that the colts balls did not deflate. Also the fact that the Patriots footballs were re inflated at halftime and did not lose air after that. AEI clearly attacks the science but as you say it doesn't explain Bradys behavior in the aftermath of the scandal including lying to Wells and withholding his phone records. It doesn't explain the behavior of two low level equipment guys or explain why the team suspended them. And it sure as heck doesn't explain the deer in the headlights hand in the cookie jar interview conducted by a very sheepish looking Brady in the early days of the controversy. I aint ever buying it but when you are Tom Brady and Robert Kraft you have a lot of friends including apparently;y the AEI so we will see.
NorthHawk wrote:I said in another thread that this would happen.
The NFL looks like it's being tough and Brady gets no penalty. It's a win-win.
c_hawkbob wrote:
No, it's definitely a lose-win. This commissioner's office is now officially toothless, they'll have to replace Goodell to ever be taken seriously now.
NorthHawk wrote:The league just announced it will appeal the decision.
And on it goes...
NorthHawk wrote:The league just announced it will appeal the decision.
And on it goes...
c_hawkbob wrote:No, it's definitely a lose-win. This commissioner's office is now officially toothless, they'll have to replace Goodell to ever be taken seriously now.
c_hawkbob wrote:The NFL should have handled it the way Baseball does a corked bat or a greased ball, toss Brady for the rest of the game and that's the end of it. No courts, no overturned rulings no BS, just handle it within the constructs of the game being played, once the game's over the whole thing is over.
Seahawks4Ever wrote:I seriously doubt that Goodell still has the support of Robert Kraft. Kraft has not had anything good to say about Goodell throughout this deflating issue. I also doubt that Goodell has the support of Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder who are still mad at losing those draft picks in what was supposed to be a "cap less" year. 3 is not enough to topple a commissioner but who knows how many other owners have lost faith in Goodell's ability to run the NFL.
One thing I envision is that the agreement between the NFL and the NFLPA will be reopened at the earliest opportunity. The players may be celebrating now and they may be right because the system for doling out suspensions has been messed up for a long time. I mean, smoking mayjane ganers as much of a suspension as someone who assaults a woman?
But, the NFL will not give up control of the players easily. I expect there will be another strike and/or lockout and it will be a very acrimonious one.
c_hawkbob wrote:8 games in baseball is about the same as a half of football in the NFL.
Seahawks4Ever wrote:I seriously doubt that Goodell still has the support of Robert Kraft. Kraft has not had anything good to say about Goodell throughout this deflating issue. I also doubt that Goodell has the support of Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder who are still mad at losing those draft picks in what was supposed to be a "cap less" year. 3 is not enough to topple a commissioner but who knows how many other owners have lost faith in Goodell's ability to run the NFL.
One thing I envision is that the agreement between the NFL and the NFLPA will be reopened at the earliest opportunity. The players may be celebrating now and they may be right because the system for doling out suspensions has been messed up for a long time. I mean, smoking mayjane ganers as much of a suspension as someone who assaults a woman?
But, the NFL will not give up control of the players easily. I expect there will be another strike and/or lockout and it will be a very acrimonious one.
Hawktawk wrote:NFL network poll do you agree with Tom Brady's suspension being lifted?
42 percent yes 58 percent NO. The on air jocks who have been shills for Brady all along seem surprised but I dont. The fans who aren't Patriot nation get it whether the talkjocks or the judges do or not.
SalmonBB wrote:AEI report throws a bunch of numbers out as if that was the only determining factor. It's possibly one piece, but not all.
Regardless, I just hope this thing is over. But that's probably wishful thinking...
GO SEAHAWKS!!!
Hawktawk wrote:RD geez COME ON!!!!! We can talk about due process and the punishment and all but you are drinking the Kool-Aid when you start talking about pressure gauges etc. THE GUY DID IT. THE BALLS WERE DEFLATED. The texts that are public show it. The men were suspended. The pats paid a huge fine and surrendered draft picks. Brady destroyed his phone then lied about that. He lied repeatedly to Wells and Goodell as has been proven by known facts. He spoke more with those 2 ball boys in the few days after the story broke than in his entire career up till then but he lied about the meetings to wells until confronted with their text stream. The equipment guys lied to the investigators even though one is on film with the balls in an unapproved restroom. They tried to explain away texts like deflator by saying they were trying to lose weight. It bordered on the comical.
That all seems to be forgotten. All world Tom Brady conspired with low level equipment guys to tamper with balls that had been approved for play. Beyond that the report and electronic message trail alludes to the suspicion this was not the first time. The fans get that RD whether you do or not. Frankly the wells report was too kind, too polite
Hawktawk wrote:RD geez COME ON!!!!! We can talk about due process and the punishment and all but you are drinking the Kool-Aid when you start talking about pressure gauges etc. THE GUY DID IT. THE BALLS WERE DEFLATED. The texts that are public show it. The men were suspended. The pats paid a huge fine and surrendered draft picks. Brady destroyed his phone then lied about that. He lied repeatedly to Wells and Goodell as has been proven by known facts. He spoke more with those 2 ball boys in the few days after the story broke than in his entire career up till then but he lied about the meetings to wells until confronted with their text stream. The equipment guys lied to the investigators even though one is on film with the balls in an unapproved restroom. They tried to explain away texts like deflator by saying they were trying to lose weight. It bordered on the comical.
That all seems to be forgotten. All world Tom Brady conspired with low level equipment guys to tamper with balls that had been approved for play. Beyond that the report and electronic message trail alludes to the suspicion this was not the first time. The fans get that RD whether you do or not. Frankly the wells report was too kind, too polite
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