c_hawkbob wrote:Ed Werder says something on a sports talk radio show and a hundred sites report it just the same as if it was actual news.
I'm not saying the story is completely bogus, but at this point it's not more believable that Russ no being willing to sign for less that $25M/year or $100M total or that he's intent on forcing free agency next year.
Till I hear it from John or Pete or Paul, or at least see the words directly attributed to one of them, I'm more than a little skeptical.
c_hawkbob wrote:Ed Werder says something on a sports talk radio show and a hundred sites report it just the same as if it was actual news.
I'm not saying the story is completely bogus, but at this point it's no more believable that Russ not being willing to sign for less that $25M/year or $100M total or that he's intent on forcing free agency next year.
Till I hear it from John or Pete or Paul, or at least see the words directly attributed to one of them, I'm more than a little skeptical.
I'm officially pissed now. Sorry Bob. As I said in another thread, we are shelling out a lot of $ to fly from to Seattle for a game. Kam's failure to honor his contract "feels like" the whole damned thing will make us less competitive. That had better be an emotionally charged perception and nowhere near true.... But it sure feels true to me today.
Hawk Sista wrote:Maybe Marshawn can pay Kam with some of his 12 million precedent setting dollars rather that wear a Kam jersey. Part of me sees it as a loyal sign of support and part of me sees a dig at Pete and john...which coming from him hardly seems fair. Maybe I'm wrong.
I'm officially pissed now. Sorry Bob. As I said in another thread, we are shelling out a lot of $ to fly from to Seattle for a game. Kam's failure to honor his contract "feels like" the whole damned thing will make us less competitive. That had better be an emotionally charged perception and nowhere near true.... But it sure feels true to me today.
I can't speak to the validity of the claims in the article, but the whole bleeping thing has put a damper on an otherwise exciting time. That by itself pisses me off (selfish, maybe... But damn it!!!)
jshawaii22 wrote:lt's really sad that the night before the first game of the 2015 NFL Season... where the past two have ended in the Super Bowl...and an offseason already energy depleted with the dragged out negotiation of RWilson's contract... and here we are talking about rumors of our owner actually going mental about Kam and his contract and not about the Rams game.
kalibane wrote:Kam might be the best SS in the league but he's still a SS, one of the easier positions to cover. He's an important player but not the kind of lynch pin that Hair Polamalu was in Pittsburgh. I think we'll be fine and if we aren't it will because of the offensive line not Kam missing.
I'm not worried as much about his on paper contributions. You're right, a strong safety is not all that important in the whole scheme of things, and I think that Bailey will do just fine.
What worries me more than his on field loss is the impact it could have on the locker room. Kam is a team leader, and along with Lynch, gives the team their identity, a symbol of our smash mouth style. The defense voted him their captain. Beast was wearing his jersey the other day. Kam has called the Seahawks "petty," Pete is undeniably down about it, and there's a rumor that the old man has called off the negotiations. This thing is getting ugly, and we have that other thing to heal, specifically the debacle in SB 49. Plus we open with two road games, two of the toughest consecutive games on our schedule. That's really bad timing.
Today is a big game. Not only is it an interdivisional game against a team and in a venue where we've had trouble before, but also because it's going to be huge in helping us get over these controversies. If we win, Kam's holdout won't be a problem in the locker room. Winning cures all wounds. But if we lose, even if we lose 3-0, Kam's holdout will pour salt into an open wound. It has the potential to rip this team apart.
Agent 86 wrote:Riv,
I think the concerns you mentioned are pretty valid, good points. All except that last line. I disagree with that. No way this team gets ripped apart, even if they start 0-2. But that is just me. I believe this team is just too strong character wise, from the top down, to get ripped apart. Russell Wilson won't let that happen. Earl Thomas won't let that happen. Pete Carroll won't let that happen. And so on.
Clem7 wrote:
Kam and his "plan" is no different than Mr. Harvin refusing to go back into the Dallas game. You care about your team? Actions speak louder than words. Thanks Mr. Bennett for being a true teammate.
Agent 86 wrote:So what's the feeling after the game?.....Bailey certainly didn't have a stellar game, which bodes well for Kam.
But I keep thinking to myself that the 'Hawks aren't going to move any money, so if Kam thinks today helped his cause, I would say he is wrong.
The D is not the same without him, as we expected. The secondary was probably the weakest part of the D today.
My gut is telling me that Kam will not be on the field in Green Bay next week, I don't anything has changed after today.
c_hawkbob wrote:Provides a little perspective: http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/09/15/nfl- ... ks-holdout
No, in the NFL, a contract is not a contract.
The article just shows me Kam isn't the devil, but the front office isn't wrong for what they are doing.
I fully support the team's stance, but can't help but hope for some sort of compromise.
Exactly where I'm at.
I hate that this is happening to my team and endagering what could be it's epic legacy, and Kam Pizzes me off to no end for it, but I can't hate the guy for it. I fully support the team's stance, but can't help but hope for some sort of compromise.
mykc14 wrote:I love Kam and what he has done for this team, but this article doesn't help me understand at all why he is holding out. This has to be the stupidest piece I have read on this subject. We are not ignorant fans, we understand how contracts work in the NFL, as do players who have to negotiate knowing the only guarantees are the signing bonus and injury guarantees, which the author doesn't mention. So when he says the NFL can cut a player for 'spraining an ankle' that might be true but they still have to pay a substantial amount. The crap about him going to college to be a QB is completely irrelevant. Did he sign this current contract thinking he was going to be a QB or did he sign it full well knowing he would be a SS, one of the stupidest arguments on this subject I have ever heard. Also, the fact that he tried to get extra money to help feed his family as a kid is completely irrelevant to these current negotiations. Complete crap. If his plan is to make a statement about how contracts in the NFL work and how it is somehow 'unfair' to the players he isn't going to find too much support from fans. If they (players) really want to make guaranteed contracts an issue wait until the next collective bargaining agreement.
kalibane wrote:Kam might be the best SS in the league but he's still a SS, one of the easier positions to cover. He's an important player but not the kind of lynch pin that Hair Polamalu was in Pittsburgh. I think we'll be fine and if we aren't it will because of the offensive line not Kam missing.
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