c_hawkbob wrote:Our O-line made some real progress yesterday. There were some nice pockets against a quality defense, and that's something we have't seen for a while. There were still major communication and recognition issues, and we took a step back in run blocking, but I'm encouraged.
They're like a rookie QB right now, they just aren't ready for the full playbook so we spoon feed 'em pablum til they can handle some spicier fare. We could look pretty good by midseason.
Zorn76 wrote:It would be nice if Bevell could use his imagination in the 1st half, instead of waiting until we're down by 10 points in the 2nd.
"Wow, what do you know, the read option works?!"
No s***, Darrell.
We're a 2nd half team, because the play calling in the first two quarters has all the creativity of a preseason game.
It's OK to have a sense of urgency early in the game to put points on the board, guy. You don't have to wait for the team to be down and desperate. It's beyond tiresome with D.B.
Zorn76 wrote:It would be nice if Bevell could use his imagination in the 1st half, instead of waiting until we're down by 10 points in the 2nd.
"Wow, what do you know, the read option works?!"
No s***, Darrell.
We're a 2nd half team, because the play calling in the first two quarters has all the creativity of a preseason game.
It's OK to have a sense of urgency early in the game to put points on the board, guy. You don't have to wait for the team to be down and desperate. It's beyond tiresome with D.B.
Zorn76 wrote:It would be nice if Bevell could use his imagination in the 1st half, instead of waiting until we're down by 10 points in the 2nd.
"Wow, what do you know, the read option works?!"
No s***, Darrell.
We're a 2nd half team, because the play calling in the first two quarters has all the creativity of a preseason game.
It's OK to have a sense of urgency early in the game to put points on the board, guy. You don't have to wait for the team to be down and desperate. It's beyond tiresome with D.B.
NorthHawk wrote:The odd thing was their pass blocking was better than their run blocking.
Strange for a run first team, but they need to get some road graders in there for us to get back to what made us successful in the past.
Our OL wasn't able to move their DL enough to give Lynch a seam to get through before the backside DL tracked him down.
They made us one dimensional by stopping the run game.
HumanCockroach wrote:The problem was more than Bevell. Everyone has a share of the blame. Whteher it be Wilsons sudden fear to keep the ball on the read option all of a sudden, poor play calling, the line missing blocks, the receivers not getting separation, Wilson not seeing open receivers, the refusal to GIVE Graham a 50/50 ball once in a while, taking a deep shot to Lockett or someone else when they crowd the LOS successful or not, the refusal to be more aggressive in the first half, or not audibling out of a bad play call. Units include everyone, Bevell may be an easy scapegoat ( and I am certainly not defending him, as I was one of the very first, if not the first to nickname the man BevFool) but seems to me, that there isn't a whole lot of accountability on all the players ( at least from fans) part for what they do. Well with the exception of the Line, they get lambasted no matter what, and have pretty much always.
HumanCockroach wrote:Did Wilson refuse to keep it on the read option the beginning of last year or the previous two seasons in the first half? I really don't remember it that way. I am NOT saying I expect them to turn into the greatest show on turf, but occasionally taking a shot down field ( which I promise they have done in the past early in the game) or occasionally reminding the defense that Wilson can and will hurt them with his feet....? I see zero issue with that, and know they have indeed done so in the past, so why the sudden hesitation to continue to do it, or sporadically do it?
NorthHawk wrote:I was just thinking they seem to have lost a little bit of swagger.
It can be cured by a big win against the Bears on Sunday.
Anthony wrote:has it occurred to you that they at not wanting RW to run much for fear of I jury now. I am not convinced they let him
obiken wrote:Oh they have to beat the Bears and the Lions, and they probably will. Come on IF they lose to the Bears at home, then we all start saying its a disaster.
HumanCockroach wrote:
Then why has Carroll twice this season been caught on camera telling him to run it or why didn't he keep the ball? Unless you are saying Bevell is going behind the HC back and telling Wilson not to, until it is to late. Hell, even the clueless announcers picked up on his refusal to keep it, when he clearly should have, if they do, I promise DC are.
HumanCockroach wrote:Anthony said: "has it occurred to you that they at not wanting RW to run much for fear of I jury now. I am not convinced they let him"
Then why has Carroll twice this season been caught on camera telling him to run it or why didn't he keep the ball? Unless you are saying Bevell is going behind the HC back and telling Wilson not to, until it is to late. Hell, even the clueless announcers picked up on his refusal to keep it, when he clearly should have, if they do, I promise DC are.
The question is has he been caught on camera saying to run it in the first half? Also if as you say PC has said this in the first half knowing wilson as well as we all do he would have done it. I think there is confusion on offense on when they wan Wilson to run and when they do not PC said during preseason they wanted him to stay in the pocket more, and they wanted to get Lynch the ball a lot. Well if Wilson is keeping it Lynch is not getting it. I am just saying it does not make sense, something is amiss. Y9o also do not know what is happening with Lynch, maybe he is trying to keep him happy, Lynch and PC do not talk much. I guess what I am saying is there is a reason he is not keeping it much in the first half and I do not believe it is Wilson. Oh and FYI he is on pace for over 800 yards again and almost has more yards then Lynch
obiken wrote:As long as Carson Palmer stays upright, they are as good or better than we are.
Based on what, exactly?
HumanCockroach wrote:
As to the first question, the answer is yes.
As to the rest of it, feel free to misconstrue what that statement was in response to. It certainly was not Carroll admitting to the rest of the league that Wilson was no longer keeping it on read options, so they no longer had to play it honest, and had an unblocked free tackler to hit Lynch in the backfield for the year.( it was in response to passing plays, and the protection on them, read the question before the answer, and it should clear things up nicely for you).
As for the outpacing, see the last paragraph, crashing LB without blockers, or the threat of the "option" portion of the read option probably is going to lower the success of the running back. Good lord.
burrrton wrote:
Yeah, mixed feelings here about that, too.
They *have* done what you expect a good team to do (beat the bad teams soundly), but it also can't be ignored that the two teams they beat are considered among the worst in the league.
as PC did say the want him to stay in the pocket more.
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