kalibane wrote:You're telling me there were not better options than Justin Britt, Drew Nowak and Gilliam. Please. They got rid of three starters and didn't try to replace them until the fourth round of the draft. Acting like a line this bad was the cost of signing Wilson is ridiculous. And I don't even know why you are taking it back here. We are talking about what's going on right now week to week. If you don't see the point of complaining about a unit that has given up18 sacks in four games I don't know what to tell you.
But since you insist on talking about the past linemen. I'm not putting words in your mouth. I stated at one point the blocking was horrendous. Your reply was that you have a different definition of horrendous and have constantly tried to shift focus to other areas like were exaggerating the impact of this line. But speaking of putting words in people's mouths who here was campaigning to get rid of Breno or Unger? Not me. And even if I was there were better options out there. They didn't even try in free agency and they waited until the 4th round to try in the draft after losing three starters. That's pretty ridiculous. I'm not going to get into naming names of who was out there, it's a waste of time. Acting like that over the past three years there weren't a plethora of better options that were both attainable and fit in a ZBS is just disingenuous. If the belief is that Cable is picking his linemen then he shouldn't be, period. The players he's brought in are terrible.
I guess you won't be satisfied until Wilson gets crushed. The last time I saw a line thus bad at pass blocking was David Carr's line in Houston.
No he will be satisfied as soon as everyone understands the only problem with this team is Wilson. Any other Qb not named Wilson could lead us to 16-0 and the Sb every year.kalibane wrote:I guess you won't be satisfied until Wilson gets crushed.
HumanCockroach wrote:Grow up, what are you 4 ?
Old but Slow wrote:Wow. I am a bit blown up by this thread. Our offensive line finally had a decent game and this is what we get? They played pretty well, and we had a running back not named Marshawn run for 160 some yards and you are complaining? The fourth quarter was disappointing, but the improvement was very good. Or, were you not really watching?
Old but Slow wrote:Wow. I am a bit blown up by this thread. Our offensive line finally had a decent game and this is what we get? They played pretty well, and we had a running back not named Marshawn run for 160 some yards and you are complaining? The fourth quarter was disappointing, but the improvement was very good. Or, were you not really watching?
NorthHawk wrote:This was a disappointing loss, no doubt.
However, consider that we went on the road with a questionable OL and being 2 time Super Bowl participants have a huge bulls eye on our back.
So we get the best from every team and yesterday we went against a very good team with SB aspirations and something to prove.
That we took them to OT shows we are still pretty good.
At the end, the Defense was getting beat up and ground down.
Hill was out with an injury, Wagner has a Pectoral injury, and the Bengals started successfully running up the gut late in the game.
With successive 3 and outs by our Offense, the DL started to look tired and Cincy took advantage of it. Kudos to them for making the changes to their Offense.
On the other side of the ball we kept doing the same things that worked in the first half and not changing the script after they started to shut down what was working earlier.
The OL played well enough for us to win. The play calling was good enough to squeak out a loss.
NorthHawk wrote:I would suggest that blowing leads is about the Offense not able to produce when required.
Less than 30 yards in the 4th Quarter and I believe 5 consecutive possessions where we didn't convert a 3rd down (6 if you count OT).
That's simply not going to win games.
Add in the Offense only scored 17 points and we have a recipe for a loss.
That's at least 2 games this year that the Offense could have pulled their weight and won it, but they don't have that in them right now.
RiverDog wrote:
That's a huge part of the problem, no doubt about it. All we needed last Sunday was one measly first down and we could have put those guys away. And you're right, the execution of any NFL offense is 20+ points plus what ever defense and special teams can contribute.
But that doesn't mean the defense gets a free pass. We weren't bringing the pressure on Dalton in the 4th quarter like we were in the 3rd. They let up just like the offense did. No one can tell me that the consensus best defense in the league and arguably the best of our generation can't hold onto a 17 point, 3 score lead going into the 4th quarter. We've had injuries before and seemed to be able to deal with them, at one time or another losing guys like Wagner, KJ Wright, Chancellor, and Mebane. Someone always stepped up.
This team just doesn't have that killer instinct, to go for the jugular when you're opponent is reeling. It could be a Super Bowl hangover that's taken two years to manifest itself. What ever it is, we need to get over it fast or else we're going to find ourselves watching something like the World Series of Poker come January. We can't afford to keep losing these very winnable games.
NorthHawk wrote:We have been one of the best Defenses the last 3 years, but this isn't the same Defense as last year. Every year is different and few Defenses stay on top for more than a few years.
We lost not only Maxwell, but two influential coaches.
Those experienced sets of eyes could be a big difference in tactics as well as influence in getting the best out of players.
The new coaches might not yet know which buttons to push with each player.
In time they might, but the point is the Offense has to contribute when the Defense struggles.
We haven't seen that yet this year and not much last year, either.
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