curmudgeon wrote:Offensively offensive...
c_hawkbob wrote:Suppose y'all are gonna blame this on the offense too?
Oly wrote:Wilson with a stupid scramble, short pass, and then throwing it to Kearse's wrong shoulder, and then that?
F.
c_hawkbob wrote:Suppose y'all are gonna blame this on the offense too?
HawkDawg wrote:This game was the fulcrum. We've had obvious issues all year, I was expecting this game to show if we have been able to fix them or not. We have not. Can't single out the offense, defense, coaching or play calling. We lost this game as a whole. Not wanting to be a doomsdayer, but at this level of play we're not seeing any SB this year. Our guys are finally getting paid and no longer hungry...we lost the fight in the dog. Hope I'm proven wrong.
Anthony wrote:Right its Wilsons fault of course3 always Wilsons fault. Did it occur to you that Kearse was suppose look outside so he can get out of bounds in case he cannot get in? Of course not.
Oly wrote:
I'm not one to complain about Wilson often, so the "always" thing doesn't apply to me.
Kearse had the inside step early in the route, so that's where it should go.
But regardless, the game is on the defense and the playcalling/run game in the 4th quarter. You HAVE to be able to run out the clock there, or at least get one 1st down. Why the Hawks can't run in the 4th is baffling.
And the defense...ugh. I just don't have the energy to do anything than drink another beer.
I wouldn't expect Wilson to win the game in that position, but I wouldn't say he made a good play on a single one of those plays.
Oly wrote:I'm not one to complain about Wilson often, so the "always" thing doesn't apply to me.
Kearse had the inside step early in the route, so that's where it should go.
But regardless, the game is on the defense and the playcalling/run game in the 4th quarter. You HAVE to be able to run out the clock there, or at least get one 1st down. Why the Hawks can't run in the 4th is baffling.
And the defense...ugh. I just don't have the energy to do anything than drink another beer.
I wouldn't expect Wilson to win the game in that position, but I wouldn't say he made a good play on a single one of those plays.
RiverDog wrote:
And the defense...ugh. I just don't have the energy to do anything than drink another beer.
I wouldn't expect Wilson to win the game in that position, but I wouldn't say he made a good play on a single one of those plays.
RiverDog wrote:We don't have a dominant offensive line that can cram the ball down our opponent's throat even when they are expecting us to run the ball. We get our rushing yards in Quarters 1-3 when there are clear, run-pass options. Our failure to gain a yard against the Rams and our failure to gain a first down against the Bengals is evidence of our inferiority up front. Teams will load up, put 8 in the box, and force us to throw. When we have a 4th quarter lead, even a 3 score lead, we are going to have to throw the ball on two out of every three downs.
Oly wrote:I see the same OL ineptitude that you do, and you're right that teams have figured the Hawks out and the they just don't have the OL skill to win matchups when the D is expecting run. I guess I was asking from a larger perspective, why can't the Hawks--who are guided by Pete's run-first philosophy--field a team capable of running in the 4th? That is the baffling part.
kalibane wrote:Graham has been getting open consistently. It's Russell who's missing him (or Bevell who's keeping him out of the pattern or taking him off the field). The only thing Graham needed to do better (aside from blocking which isn't going to happen and should never expect to happen) is keep working open when the play breaks down.
He did that better Sunday. I'm not saying that Graham should be going for 140 every game but he should be getting at least half of the targets he got yesterday every single game and he simply wasn't getting that. As far as I'm concerned Graham is as good as advertised, they just need to actually utilize him.
kalibane wrote:Yeah you can make the argument that it didn't make sense to trade for him given our team's personality.
I'm just saying that's not Graham's fault. Might be that I'm splitting hairs but it would be more accurate to say the trade was a disappointment. When you say Graham is a disappointment, it makes it seem like he came over here and pulled a Housh and that's not the case. Unlike Housh, Graham is doing what he is expected to do when he's on the field, Russ and the coaching staff just aren't getting him the ball.
For what's it's worth, I think if we had Unger and Miller it still wouldn't matter. I doubt the OL would be getting much more of a push with those two, because none of the other positions are playing up to snuff... even Okung is getting beaten far too often.
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