Red Zone Offense

[RiverDog]

I find this stat to be absolutely pathetic. Our red zone offense is BY FAR the worst in the league. Take a look at those percentages in the first column, which reflects the overall red zone efficiency for 2015. There's a roughly 1-3% differential between any one ranking and the one below it until you get to Seattle at the bottom, where there is over an 8% spread between our dead last ranking and the next highest.

1 Pittsburgh 75.00% 66.67% 50.00% 80.00% 66.67% 51.72%
2 New England 73.91% 71.43% 66.67% 83.33% 63.64% 62.96%
3 NY Jets 73.68% 80.00% 75.00% 75.00% 71.43% 36.17%
4 Atlanta 72.73% 72.73% 66.67% 63.64% 81.82% 61.36%
5 Cincinnati 71.43% 91.67% 100.00% 75.00% 68.75% 58.00%
6 Arizona 69.23% 50.00% 25.00% 61.54% 76.92% 43.59%
7 Detroit 66.67% 62.50% 60.00% 70.00% 60.00% 53.06%
8 Buffalo 66.67% 50.00% 100.00% 66.67% 66.67% 43.14%
9 Tennessee 66.67% 54.55% 33.33% 54.55% 85.71% 48.72%
10 Indianapolis 66.67% 63.64% 100.00% 44.44% 88.89% 55.07%
11 Oakland 64.29% 55.56% 50.00% 71.43% 57.14% 71.43%
12 Houston 61.11% 66.67% 100.00% 44.44% 77.78% 54.17%
13 Green Bay 59.09% 44.44% 50.00% 53.85% 66.67% 57.14%
14 Carolina 58.82% 66.67% 100.00% 66.67% 54.55% 48.15%
15 Miami 57.14% 55.56% 75.00% 0.00% 66.67% 51.47%
16 New Orleans 56.52% 53.85% 60.00% 66.67% 45.45% 60.00%
17 Washington 56.25% 50.00% 33.33% 71.43% 44.44% 47.92%
18 San Diego 54.55% 54.55% 33.33% 66.67% 40.00% 54.17%
19 Baltimore 52.63% 70.00% 33.33% 71.43% 41.67% 54.93%
20 Jacksonville 52.63% 63.64% 66.67% 44.44% 60.00% 40.62%
21 Philadelphia 52.63% 45.45% 50.00% 45.45% 62.50% 49.15%
22 Tampa Bay 50.00% 54.55% 60.00% 58.33% 33.33% 53.85%
23 Dallas 50.00% 55.56% 0.00% 60.00% 33.33% 64.91%
24 Minnesota 46.67% 50.00% 33.33% 50.00% 33.33% 53.85%
25 Chicago 44.44% 46.15% 37.50% 50.00% 40.00% 63.83%
26 St Louis 42.86% 40.00% 25.00% 40.00% 44.44% 50.00%
27 Kansas City 42.11% 12.50% 0.00% 28.57% 50.00% 58.33%
28 NY Giants 40.00% 55.56% 100.00% 38.46% 42.86% 59.02%
29 Denver 37.50% 11.11% 0.00% 25.00% 41.67% 63.49%
30 San Francisco 36.84% 33.33% 0.00% 20.00% 55.56% 43.18%
31 Cleveland 36.84% 41.67% 66.67% 50.00% 27.27% 48.98%
32 Seattle 28.57% 16.67% 33.33% 16.67% 37.50% 52.11%

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/r ... coring-pct

Where's our stats monkey Anthony to tell us how this doesn't reflect on Russell Wilson or that we should stop letting the defense off the hook?

[Futureite]

I heard your "Softy" (Mauler?) on our radio this morning. He has the whole inflammatory schtick down pretty well, but I gotta admit he had me laughing more than once. He was talking about your redzone woes. I had no idea you guys were that bad. I was certain we were the worst. Kicking FGs is very frustrating. I personally give some share to playcalling. But most of the blame goes to Kap. I would assume it's a similar proportionate share of blame for you guys.

[Clem7]

Denver is 29th, not much better than us, and undefeated. Thanks to their defense.

A luxury we used to have. Our offense has been slow getting going each year, slowly improving, and at our best late season.

The defense made us elite. Offense was ok. Today we are not elite. But there is still tomorrow.

[The POPE]

I was not aware that the Hawks had a red zone offense. We are all still waiting for it to appear. The Hawks red zone offense is sort of like the Holy Ghost, you know it's there somewhere just can't see it.
Maybe it will make an appearance on Thursday night.
The Vatican is officially naming the Thursday night game the Toilet Bowl. We will see which turd floats to the top. The losing turd will pretty much be flushed for the season.
Hope the Hawks can climb out of that bowl and shake the sh$t off, cause if not --- they done.


Go Hawks

Signed,
The Pope

[Futureite]

I was not aware that the Hawks had a red zone offense. We are all still waiting for it to appear. The Hawks red zone offense is sort of like the Holy Ghost, you know it's there somewhere just can't see it.
Maybe it will make an appearance on Thursday night.
The Vatican is officially naming the Thursday night game the Toilet Bowl. We will see which turd floats to the top. The losing turd will pretty much be flushed for the season.
Hope the Hawks can climb out of that bowl and shake the sh$t off, cause if not --- they done.


Go Hawks

Signed,
The Pope

LOL! If there is any D that can fix that problem it's ours.

[HumanCockroach]

This is not a "new" problem, it has been a steady decline for the last 4 seasons. In fact I used to get excited last season and the season before, when the offense had penalties or sacks that took them OUT of the red zone. Pretty famous amongst friends for saying things like "good, now they can score a touchdown instead of a FG" after a negative play to put them on the 25 or so. I personally just don't think Bevell's offense is worth a damn in condensed areas, and IMHO Wilson struggles there as well, since everything is "tightened" and packed in. I personally think Wilson excels in space far more, and that having that room is a boon, not a negative. Also why when they do get in there and go conservative, I get exceedingly angry. The WHOLE reason for the Graham trade in the first place was to improve in that SPECIFIC area, so what gives? Either Wilson isn't trusting Graham to get the 50/50 ball ( or Matthews for that matter) or the line implodes, or Wislon simply won't throw the ball. WHAT THE HELL happened to that goal line / short yardage "jumbo" personnel package that was all the talk during pre season ( Graham, Matthews, Kearse, Willson) ? I seldom see it ( and I mean RARELY) so is it a bust, or are they "saving it" for some reason? I simply don't get it.

[Zorn76]

An equal if not greater concern has been 1st downs for our offense, particularly during the 4th qt (duh, lol).

More points are always welcomed, especially when you've driven down the field into the opponents red zone, but burning the clock to finish games has been as glaring as anything else offensively.

[RiverDog]

This is not a "new" problem, it has been a steady decline for the last 4 seasons. In fact I used to get excited last season and the season before, when the offense had penalties or sacks that took them OUT of the red zone. Pretty famous amongst friends for saying things like "good, now they can score a touchdown instead of a FG" after a negative play to put them on the 25 or so. I personally just don't think Bevell's offense is worth a damn in condensed areas, and IMHO Wilson struggles there as well, since everything is "tightened" and packed in. I personally think Wilson excels in space far more, and that having that room is a boon, not a negative. Also why when they do get in there and go conservative, I get exceedingly angry. The WHOLE reason for the Graham trade in the first place was to improve in that SPECIFIC area, so what gives? Either Wilson isn't trusting Graham to get the 50/50 ball ( or Matthews for that matter) or the line implodes, or Wislon simply won't throw the ball. WHAT THE HELL happened to that goal line / short yardage "jumbo" personnel package that was all the talk during pre season ( Graham, Matthews, Kearse, Willson) ? I seldom see it ( and I mean RARELY) so is it a bust, or are they "saving it" for some reason? I simply don't get it.

You're right, it's not a 'new' problem. We've had red zone woes before, but never like we've had them at the start of this season. Take a look at the numbers in the last column. They are from last season, which as you noted, weren't stellar to begin with at 52%, which was good enough for 19th in the league. Not acceptable for sure, but compare that with our current 29%, 8% below the next worst performance this season. We've jumped from the frying pan into the fire.

And you're right, Zorny. There's other statistical areas where our offense has done a face plant. This is just one of them.

[mykc14]

I think its been pretty obvious to any Hawks fan that we have been terrible in the red zone this year (and pretty bad in years past) but this is absolutely pathetic. In the offseason I was excited about using Graham and Matthews on the outside to use their size to out position/out jump smaller defenders but we have only seen this twice (on consecutive plays) all season. Our red zone offense has been bad in the past and getting Graham was supposed to fix that. It's time they got there chit together. Time to use our weapons the way they were meant to be used.