c_hawkbob wrote:You wouldn't have to direct that it either come out of the Owners or the Player's pocket's though, it would be collectively bargained so it would be coming out of both in any case.
burrrton wrote:Some public money is appropriate to spend on an NFL stadium- it's a public good, similar to parks, waterparks, aquatic facilities, etc, isn't it? Of course it also benefits the owner so it's appropriate to expect them to cover the cost, too.
Also, there are different types of "public money". In the case of CenturyLink, the vast majority (if not all?) of it comes from taxes on tickets, hotels, merchandise, etc, that directly benefit from the presence of the stadium/team. AFAIK, *none* of it comes from a property or income tax, or even a general sales tax, which is what people generally think of when talking about "public" money- if any of it did, I'd agree with the objection. Short of that, though, I don't.
My main argument for league funding of stadiums is to put an end to owners blackmailing cities by threatening to move their team if they aren't rewarded with a new stadium that they think they're entitled to.
Oly wrote:Hmmm....I think that if I'm the player's union and the CBA wants an even split of contributions from players and owners, I'm asking for a portion of gate receipts.
savvyman wrote:We don't need to be subsidizing "Billionaires" for stadiums. Now if the public is going to fund part, most or all of a stadium, then the public should share proportionally as owners of the stadium in the amount that they contributed.
jshawaii22 wrote:Does anyone remember what the Seahawks stadium cost Paul Allen? Did he kick in anything?
Good Topic, Understand Richards consternation, but for the man from Stanford... he's way off -base on this one.
jshawaii22 wrote: The fact that he also bought property and built a garage that makes $$$ for multiple events other then those at the stadium also would be looked at with disdain.
jshawaii22 wrote:430M!!! what a steal in this day and age. 25% wouldn't cut it now and that seems to be at the crux of the problem. Back then, Mr. Allen's contribution was looked at as generous. The fact that he also bought property and built a garage that makes $$$ for multiple events other then those at the stadium also would be looked at with disdain.
Hawktawk wrote:RD hit the nail on the head about player salaries. They don't have a case to make regarding the explosion in costs in the NFL and would never consider giving some of it back to better their franchise for the most part.
The value of a sports franchise to a community and even a geographical region cannot be overstated, especially an NFL franchise. In much the same fashion as a port district is a public private partnership for economic development the same is true of a pro franchise. And as such the taxpayers should definitely have a role in supporting them.
We may not like being shaken down but the alternative is worse in my opinion One need look no further than the Sonics disaster to see how short sighted citizens and politicians coupled with greedy sleazy ownership allowed the heist of the century.I will never forget when that SOB Behring tried to steal the Hawks and will always feel indebted to Paul Allen.Losing a franchise is hard to undo.
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