EmeraldBullet wrote:I actually have an issue with the cops now refusing to do their jobs they are paid to do because they got their feelings hurt. This whole situation is ridiculous and out of control. Kap is just trying to keep himself relevant, this protest has nothing to do with oppression. I actually think it's sad that we are talking about this at all.
EmeraldBullet wrote:I actually have an issue with the cops now refusing to do their jobs they are paid to do because they got their feelings hurt. This whole situation is ridiculous and out of control. Kap is just trying to keep himself relevant, this protest has nothing to do with oppression. I actually think it's sad that we are talking about this at all.
jshawaii22 wrote:There are at least two parts to the Police presence at a Professional Football game. I'm sure most cities have union contracts that include 'must' work permitted events. For instance, they have to protect KKK marches, even if they don't want to. These would be outside crowd control, Box Office, stadium parking and surrounding control (traffic) and other related to the operation of the stadium. However, the Chief is talking about the "Special Duty Officers" that would be hired direct from the team, and payrolled by the team, for instance, to guard the entrance to the stadium and the locker rooms for the players, and stand behind the benches in case some nut-job jumps onto the field. Those officers, as they are hired by the team, can't be 'forced' to work, but a lot of officers depend on the extra income, so I doubt this is any more then a grandstand by the Chief, at this point.
Hawktawk wrote:Police departments all over america are having problems staffing. Chicago, the ghastly bloodbath cannot find and afford the officers it needs to stem the violence. Who would want to police these hellholes anyway?It is as dangerous as Afganistan and a pretty much thankless job.Cops are charged with murder for shooting armed felons and hung out to dry without due process for political expediency.
And some SOB who wears pig socks and Castro shirts and disrespects America gets 12 million to ride the pine.
Its an Fd up world folks. That is all.
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@Kaepernick7 The path less traveled doesn't need to be one of destruction. #beenthere #besmarter #berespectful
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Heidi Russo @Heidirn1
@Kaepernick7 There's ways to make change w/o disrespecting & bringing shame to the very country & family who afforded you so many blessings.
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Heidi Russo @Heidirn1
@Kaepernick7 The path less traveled doesn't need to be one of destruction. #beenthere #besmarter #berespectful
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Heidi Russo @Heidirn1
@Kaepernick7 There's ways to make change w/o disrespecting & bringing shame to the very country & family who afforded you so many blessings.
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Don’t tell me you just disagree with the methods. You really mean to say you disagree with the cause. -Doug Baldwin Jr (@DougBaldwinJr)
“I would just listen. I would shut my mouth and just listen.”
I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” -Marin Luther King, Jr
I mean, it isn't like Kaepernick wants anything to do with her so I really don't see how this is supposed to be a significant statement. Her opinion means no more or less than the millions who already disagree with CK''s "methods". Not sure why she's being quoted.
Even though my initial reaction to your protest was one of anger, I’m trying to listen to what you’re saying and why you’re doing it. When I told my mom about this article, she cautioned me that “the last thing our country needed right now was more hate.” As usual, she’s right.
There are already plenty people fighting fire with fire, and it’s just not helping anyone or anything. So I’m just going to keep listening, with an open mind.
I look forward to the day you’re inspired to once again stand during our national anthem. I’ll be standing right there next to you. Keep on trying … De Oppresso Liber.
Because she's his mother. No other reason, but I don't think another reason is necessary, whether he cares what she says or not, she's still his mom.
Despite what Doug says and what you evidently think it really IS possible to agree with his message but disagree with his method. It's not "drowning his message in misdirection strategies in hopes that they'll blow over" to be of the opinion that he's misdirecting his disrespect by aiming it at the country when his stated problem is with specific Police or Police Departments. There are too many people that have nothing whatsoever to do with under-trained officers or lack of accountability in incident reviews to aim his disrespect at the entire country.
I'm not ready to lionize him either though. I think his motivations are questionable (it's tough losing the spotlight) and there are other actions that trivialize (the pig socks) and are inconsistent with (wearing a Castro shirt, I'd like to see him pull this stunt in Cuba in the 60's) his message. I think he's a bit of a dick who was trying to be edgy and keep himself relevant and happened on an issue who's time is ripe and I think history is going to put him in the company of real heros of social change whether he deserves to be in their company or not.
it's a bit of a distraction from what's really important (FOOTBALL!) but I honestly hope it all does help to bring about some change, we need better trained police forces and they need greater accountability. It's just too bad people like Nate had to be disrespected in the first place to kick start the conversation.
RiverDog wrote:I'm anxious to hear what NLBM has to say about Kaepernick's piggy socks and his Fidel Castro tee shirt. As Cbob stated, Kaep is protesting mistreatment and repression in America yet he is embracing Castro's Cuba. If this behavior doesn't fit my "rebel without a cause" description, I don't know what does
nlbmsportin wrote:Yeah I already addressed that. I'm not going to abandon Kapernick's protest because he isn't the model face of the protest. I already mentioned Mandela and Ali in regards to flawed protesters. It is fair to criticize Kapernick's other displays of protest as inconsistent, misplaced, and even hypocritical. It is not fair to use that as an excuse to further denigrate the idea that there are people suffering immensely that most of you will honestly never even hold a conversation with.
MackStrongIsMyHero wrote:http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000695751/article/hot-item-colin-kaepernick-jersey-sales-skyrocket
Cashing in on his protest. Perhaps he will give the proceeds to groups helping struggling minorities.
Hawk Sista wrote:Agree or disagree w/ his tactics.... But we all agree he has a right to free speech. He chose to use this right to stand for those who are voiceless which has stirred a national debate to a degree our founding fathers could never have even imagined. #America
And sorry Bob, the woman who gave Colin up for adoption (no judgement of that decision) doesn't get to claim that he's shamed her family. He's not in her family. Talk about using a platform to get yourself noticed.
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