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by **Largent80** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:13 pm

Holy Crap, the Bears are such idiots. They give SF 3 picks to move in front of them when they weren't even taking a QB and look who they got.

Chicago SUCKS.

by **NorthHawk** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:17 pm

Largent80 wrote:Holy Crap, the Bears are such idiots. They give SF 3 picks to move in front of them when they weren't even taking a QB and look who they got.

Chicago SUCKS.

According to PFT, the HC John Fox wasn't even told the GM was going to do it until about a couple of hours before the draft.
Seems like the relationship is foundering in front of our eyes.

by **Seahawks4Ever** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:34 pm

I saw the film on this guy, he can't throw an accurate deep ball, especially a deep oute ball ends up 20 yards out of bounds,LOL.

This guy has "bust" written all over him.

I have never been impressed by the coaching ability of John Fox and if he didn't even know what the draft strategy was then he doesn't have much say in who his players will be. To paraphrase Bill Parcells, he is being asked to cook a meal with ingredients supplied by someone else.

by **obiken** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:12 pm

Rambo2014 wrote:Hey It looks like the Seahawks strategy is to trade down at every pick until they have 25 picks in the 7th round

Going on the cheap will not cut it in this league

What a disaster for you fans

All the out of work comedians and then there's you Dumbo!

by **Seahawks4Ever** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:16 pm

Here we go again, back on the clock!

by **Seahawks4Ever** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:20 pm

Traded down again, I am starting wonder if we will draft anyone at all LOL

Maybe I got ahead of myself, it looks like JAX leaped over us.

by **Seahawks4Ever** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:26 pm

There goes CAM. I hear he graded out as a RT plus he has short arms, I guess. I mean, if we actually needed a RT we just might have drafted this guy instead of essentially trading him to JAX for a sixer.

by **Seahawks4Ever** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:28 pm

When you have a Tom Cable you don't HAVE to draft an O-Lineman in the first couple rounds because he can make them out any big guy with quick feet and long arms...

by **Seahawks4Ever** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:31 pm

Malkik McDowell, love him! Team depth! Love it!!! Help out the LOB and LB's by putting more pressure on qb's. Love this pick!!! I am willing to bet John and Pete had their eye on this guy all along.

by **c_hawkbob** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:32 pm

I don't think we will ever have a decent O-line with Pete.

by **Anthony** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:34 pm

Seahawks4Ever wrote:When you have a Tom Cable you don't HAVE to draft an O-Lineman in the first couple rounds because he can make them out any big guy with quick feet and long arms...

LOL yeah I mean you can get guys to be part of the worse oline in the NFL in the 7th round or the NBA draft, oh wait we already do this LOL, Hope RWs insurance is paid up

by **obiken** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:38 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:I don't think we will ever have a decent O-line with Pete.

I agree, Cbob. I think this is year that our QB gets a torn ACL I really, really, hope I am wrong.
The DT from Mich St is fine, but we need OL. Robinson would have been perfect.

by **NorthHawk** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:41 pm

If they get Moton, it would be a good pick, or Lamp but I doubt either will be there unless we move up.

Edit:
Regarding McDowell, he gives the DL some inside pressure as well as from the end like Bennett.

by **Seahawks4Ever** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:44 pm

c_hawkbob wrote:I don't think we will ever have a decent O-line with Pete.

I feel your pain

by **obiken** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:47 pm

There goes Lamp, we are totally screwed. I am so done with Pete and John when it comes to Offensive Lineman, period. There is zero chance RW doesnt get seriously hurt this year.

by **Seahawks4Ever** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:27 pm

But, what if Cable can take a raw physical specimen who, up until now, has little to no O-Line experience in his young career and turn him in 2 years into a player as good as Lamp on the day he was drafted?? Is it worth the amount of CAP Space saved over a few years?

That does seem to be our team's philosophy, why pay more when you came have the same or near the same value for a lot less.

by **c_hawkbob** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:40 pm

Glad Mixon is gone. As bummed as I am about not getting some O-line help I'd probabl just turn off the draft and check in tomorrow if we'd taken him.

by **Largent80** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:43 pm

Mc Dowell are you kidding me?.....

Crap, I guess we watch TE's doing what they do against us. STUPID assed pick.

AZ gets Budda Baker and Reddick and we get a headcase. I'm not buying Sunday Ticket this year.

by **Seahawks4Ever** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:14 pm

Don't know much about Posic but a Center/Guard is welcome. Anyone have the skinny on this guy? Is he a reach or right on time?

by **c_hawkbob** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:17 pm

Never heard of him. But at least he's a lineman.

by **Anthony** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:17 pm

Seahawks4Ever wrote:But, what if Cable can take a raw physical specimen who, up until now, has little to no O-Line experience in his young career and turn him in 2 years into a player as good as Lamp on the day he was drafted?? Is it worth the amount of CAP Space saved over a few years?

That does seem to be our team's philosophy, why pay more when you came have the same or near the same value for a lot less.

So you gamble your FRANCHISE QB does not get a major injury to save a few bucks. HMM okay Stupid but okay. Let's save a few million now and gamble we don't loose 20+ mil when our QB goes down. Hmm this is why every NFl teams defense has no respect for us, because we hang out QQ out to dry every year.

by **Seahawks4Ever** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:33 pm

Whoa Tony, I was only stating what our philosophy seems to be, I wasn't advocating it. Believe me, other teams seem to be able to draft O-Linemen in the first 3 rounds and have them be productive if not thrive, I don't see why our team can't do it.

Come on, we ALL know this is because one of Pete's weaknesses is he doesn't really understand the offensive si8de of the ball. He is like the opposite of Holmgren who didn't understand defense or defensive players. It has always baffled me how a coach (like Holmgren) could understand how to pick apart a defense but couldn't design a defense to save his life(or job).

Pete don't understand offense, its sad really. It actually physically hurts to watch Pete have to depend on an idiot like Bevell and know he is NEVER going to fire him and so our offense will always be anemic until Pete leaves, and who wants THAT?? It hurt to watch Holmgren as the Hawks sank into mediocrity. I have warned that the same thing could happen to Pete and company IF Pete continues to double down on the Bevell madness.

by **Anthony** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:42 pm

Seahawks4Ever wrote:Whoa Tony, I was only stating what our philosophy seems to be, I wasn't advocating it. Believe me, other teams seem to be able to draft O-Linemen in the first 3 rounds and have them be productive if not thrive, I don't see why our team can't do it.

Come on, we ALL know this is because one of Pete's weaknesses is he doesn't really understand the offensive si8de of the ball. He is like the opposite of Holmgren who didn't understand defense or defensive players. It has always baffled me how a coach (like Holmgren) could understand how to pick apart a defense but couldn't design a defense to save his life(or job).

Pete don't understand offense, its sad really. It actually physically hurts to watch Pete have to depend on an idiot like Bevell and know he is NEVER going to fire him and so our offense will always be anemic until Pete leaves, and who wants THAT?? It hurt to watch Holmgren as the Hawks sank into mediocrity. I have warned that the same thing could happen to Pete and company IF Pete continues to double down on the Bevell madness.

You see that is what is interesting to me, without a QB like Wilson saving their A$$ they would all be revealed as the jokes they are. IT snot just Bevel it is the Oline coach as well. What a joke.

by **EmeraldBullet** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:51 pm

@Anthony
If it weren't for cables talents making a mix and match of OL that severely lacks talent into something somewhat usable, we would be much worse off. Cable has been a saving grace of sorts.

by **EmeraldBullet** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:58 pm

After reading up on Pocic I really like that pick. He hasn't really missed any starts and rarely gets penalized.
Anyone know anything about the CB we drafted?

by **Seahawks4Ever** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:18 pm

Who did we draft @ 90 I was watching the NFL network and they blew right past our pick because they were doing a human interest story. It was an interesting story, but we have been waiting a long time and we are sick of being treated this way.

by **EmeraldBullet** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:27 pm

35. Malik McDowell DE
58. Ethan Pocic C
90. Shaq Griffin CB
95. Delano Hill SS
102. Nazair Jones DT

by **Seahawks4Ever** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:31 pm

#102 Nazir Jones DT- Could be Tom Cable's next project @LT LOL

by **jshawaii22** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:34 pm

what it really says is how unhappy the team is with the D-Linemen that we've drafted the past 3 years.

by **EmeraldBullet** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:40 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:what it really says is how unhappy the team is with the D-Linemen that we've drafted the past 3 years.

I've thought frank Clark has done really well when he's been in the game for the most part.

by **EmeraldBullet** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:40 pm

106. Amara Darboh WR

From the film Darboh looks like he has good size, and has made some nice catches....Analysts said he's a good blocker too. Could be a good fit.

by **NorthHawk** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:50 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:what it really says is how unhappy the team is with the D-Linemen that we've drafted the past 3 years.

Both Avril and Bennett are getting older, so it's a good move to bring in more competition on the edges and interior pass rush.

by **NorthHawk** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:52 pm

EmeraldBullet wrote:After reading up on Pocic I really like that pick. He hasn't really missed any starts and rarely gets penalized.
Anyone know anything about the CB we drafted?

He can play any of the 5 positions along the OL, but played C last year. Does this signal us letting Britt walk without much effort to keep him?

by **jshawaii22** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:55 pm

Both Avril and Bennett are getting older, so it's a good move to bring in more competition on the edges and interior pass rush.

Well, our first round pick played '95%' of the time at Nose Tackle and the 2nd pick is listed as a DT, so I think it's the interior issues, not as replacements for the great two DE's we have.

Rubin, who came in as a backup has been great. The draft picks, on the inside, not so much.

by **jshawaii22** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:57 pm

We have one pick in the next 100 tomorrow, the 4th of the day. We've covered a lot of bases so far, but a tackle would be nice. Or as an outside the box pick, maybe the nation's best FG Kicker.

by **Seahawks4Ever** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:07 pm

It wouldn't surprise me because that has been their MO in the PC era. Now, Pete says that having cheap linemen is not the problem because they wouldn't play any better if he paid them more. When Pete made that statement he really pissed me off because it showed me that he has no respect for the knowledge of the average fan. Well, every time it came time to give a starter a raise or let them go they let them go, every one except Unger and I would send Graham back to N.O. for him in a heart beat. The lack of production from J.G. is yet another indictment of Darrell Bevell.

I appreciate the success that Pete Carroll has brought here, it is unprecedented for a professional team based here in the pacific N.W. But sometimes I just can't stand his rank smugness.

by **jshawaii22** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:26 pm

for those of you (like me) that don't think we draft enough O linemen -- here's a tidbit from ESPN-West -

Pocic is the 15th offensive lineman the Seahawks have taken since GM John Schneider and coach Pete Carroll took over in 2010. That’s more than any other team. But they need to start hitting at a better rate.

by **Zorn76** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:47 pm

We filled some needs, but still puzzled a bit over the way we passed on plenty of guys ranked fairly well.

We've drafted some solid players lately (Clark, Lockett), but this class I think will be under more pressure to adopt quickly.
Takes 3 yrs to really grade rooks. I just hope more than a couple stick.

by **NorthHawk** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:55 pm

[quote="jshawaii22"]for those of you (like me) that don't think we draft enough O linemen -- here's a tidbit from ESPN-West -

[quote]Pocic is the 15th offensive lineman the Seahawks have taken since GM John Schneider and coach Pete Carroll took over in 2010. That’s more than any other team. But they need to start hitting at a better rate.[

The other problem is they don't keep the ones they successfully develop to help provide continuity. It looks like Britt will be the next one out the door if Posic is moved to Center. If they don't extend Britt this year it will tell us that's the basic plan.
Unfortunately, OL isn't an area where you can plug 5 different guys in and expect them to play at a high level immediately. It usually takes a couple of years to reach their full promise.

by **Anthony** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:09 pm

EmeraldBullet wrote:@Anthony
If it weren't for cables talents making a mix and match of OL that severely lacks talent into something somewhat usable, we would be much worse off. Cable has been a saving grace of sorts.

That's a huge assumption that its cable, I can argue without Wilson running around after the oline goes to crap in 2-seconds or less they would look like bigger crap. Also, keep in mind Cable has a huge hand in who we draft and sign for that line, so really going to give him positive credit for one of the worse pass blocking oline ever?

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