c_hawkbob wrote:I'm certainly no Pats fan but if you'r going to make a big deal about deflating balls, illegal hearing aides gotta be on the radar.
c_hawkbob wrote:I'm certainly no Pats fan but if you'r going to make a big deal about deflating balls, illegal hearing aides gotta be on the radar.
mykc14 wrote:I agree that it would be just a big of a deal as deflating footballs, but the fact that it was illegal is pure speculation. The writer of the original piece just assumes they were electronic in some way, which would be illegal, but teams were special earplugs/hearing aids all the time now that are not electronic and not illegal. We hear about them in just about every one of our prime time home games.
Hawktawk wrote:Also there is no evidence Brady has ever used HGH. There's quite a bit of smoke to suggest Manning did. I don't blame him under the circumstances but I think he absolutely did.
Manning is the teflon man, from tea bagging a female trainer in college right on through the al jazeera scandal he gets a pass because he could throw a football and read the field as well as any man who ever played.
So it goes.
FolkCrusader wrote:I don't know exactly what they would have used but there were certainly devices intended to enhance certain sounds (such as a voice) while muffling very loud sounds (such as gunshots). Law enforcement used them and probably still do. Hunters used them. Assuming the frequencies affected could be tweaked they would have worked very well for that situation.
The real question is why aren't teams continuing to try and use them today. Perhaps the NFL became aware of them and made specific rules about them with fines defined?
RiverDog wrote:
But such devices would have had to have been battery operated, correct? I don't know of any plain ole ear plugs that can do what you have described above.
FolkCrusader wrote:"But such devices would have had to have been battery operated, correct? I don't know of any plain ole ear plugs that can do what you have described above."
Yes, correct.
obiken wrote:Old news, he's retired, who cares??
burrrton wrote:Is there actually a debate about who's the GOAT now??
If the circumstances were he was drafted a year after P. Manning and by the Colts, would he have ever been able to show enough to be traded to a team that needed a QB? How about if he landed in a city like Cleveland of late?
NorthHawk wrote:He's also very lucky to have landed in the perfect position to exploit his abilities.
If the circumstances were he was drafted a year after P. Manning and by the Colts, would he have ever been able to show enough to be traded to a team that needed a QB? How about if he landed in a city like Cleveland of late?
He is the right QB at the right time for NE and has probably enjoyed the most success of any QB, but he's darn lucky to also be in the situation where the coaches saw what they had.
I occasionally wonder about how many other players were never discovered because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
NorthHawk wrote:The point I was trying to make is there is also some good fortune in his career. If Bledsoe wasn't injured, would Brady have got the chance?
Maybe not for another year or more, and nobody knows how that might have turned out. He really took advantage of his opportunity.
Some other players like Barry Sanders excelled even without much help around him (a fairly consistent OL, but not much else on those teams) and he is near the top for RB's in my opinion.
Hawk Sista wrote:I know this makes me a homer, but I think getting drafted to the expansion Texans w/ that HORRIBLE o-line ruined the elder Carr, David.
Carr's demise with the Texans is what worries me about the spot we've put Russell Wilson in these past few years.
mykc14 wrote:I agree that it would be just a big of a deal as deflating footballs, but the fact that it was illegal is pure speculation. The writer of the original piece just assumes they were electronic in some way, which would be illegal, but teams were special earplugs/hearing aids all the time now that are not electronic and not illegal. We hear about them in just about every one of our prime time home games.
EmeraldBullet wrote:
I know of a specific brand that makes 'ear plugs', in southern Oregon. They aren't electronic, but they are fitted to your ear and are specifically designed to block out noises at certain frequencies and allow other frequencies to be heard with clarity. I am into hunting and that's how I know about these, but same principal would work for athletes. I never had owned a pair as they cost a ton of money (when I looked into what I wanted it was like $3500 a pair.) They aren't electronic at all and would be legal in nfl, I am sure many players use these.
Hawk Sista wrote:Good points. We pretty much all agree the Bill & Tom are the GOATs of their respective positions. And deservedly so. I hate it that the SB victory "Tom got" to ice his legacy came after injuries to our guys and the play that shall not be named. What an effin gift.... damn, I hate that! And the great disappearance of the entire Falcon Team/coaches (save Ju-Jo) in the 4th, otherwise they'd have lost their last 4 SB appearances.
But like my man Charles Barkley says, "if, if, if! Whatchoo mean if? If I didn't eat so much, I wouldn't be so fat, but I do & I am."
If ifs and butts were candy and nuts we would all have a merry Christmas. Or a bit harsher take would be wish in one hand and sh*t in the other and see which one fills up faster.
God causes the rain to fall on the just and the unjust. It seems so unfair sometimes.
There has never been a less deserving dynasty than the Pats IMO but it is what it is...
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