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The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:35 am
by Agent 86
Scenario #1 - Hawks win both games (@Dallas, Arizona) and the Rams lose both (@Tennessee, San Francisco). Hawks win division on a tiebreaker.

Scenario #2 - Hawks win both games, combined with the Saints(Atlanta,@Tampa Bay), OR Falcons(@New Orleans, Carolina), OR Panthers(Tampa Bay, @Atlanta) losing out, combined with Detroit(@Cincinatti, Green Bay) losing or tying 1 game. Hawks get a wildcard berth on tiebreakers.

Scenario #3 - Hawks win both games, and BOTH the Saints and Panthers lose out. Hawks would get a wildcard berth on tiebreakers.


If the Hawks, Lions, and Falcons all finish 10-6, the Hawks would be eliminated based on tiebreakers.

Re: The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:07 pm
by Largent80
The Hawks eliminated themselves in two ways. Number one, Blair Walsh number two keeping the same offense.

Re: The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:13 pm
by RiverDog

Re: The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:05 pm
by Zorn76
Pure bonus if we get in - though I could see Atlanta possibly losing out with the scenarios outlined.
Thank you 86 for that.

I dunno - I actually think we're better off missing post season in a way, if it'll help send home a message that we need significant change next year. With the existing roster, even healthy, this isn't much more than a 9 win team moving forward. If get in, fine, we'll see what we do. But the idea that we're gonna go on the road and be warriors in the playoffs, eh, I doubt that very much.

This team has fought hard all year, but we never could get out of our own way.

Re: The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:33 pm
by idhawkman
I know some say that last week wasn't a must win scenario, but since we don't control our own destiny anymore, I think it was. I don't see Detroit losing a game against the Bungles or a Rodgersless GB team so I think the Lions will be the 6th seed.

Re: The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:42 pm
by Aseahawkfan
We're done. This is just a futile analysis of math. Our season is over. It was over when we lost to the Rams. Rams game was a must win regardless of how anyone wanted to see it.

Re: The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:47 pm
by idhawkman
Aseahawkfan wrote:We're done. This is just a futile analysis of math. Our season is over. It was over when we lost to the Rams. Rams game was a must win regardless of how anyone wanted to see it.

I kind of knew that losing to the Skins, Jags and Falcons was a very bad sign for our hopes but I chose to try and ignore them. Oh well, maybe it is time to just hang up my fan cleats - the entertainment value for me has gone down steadily for the past few years. Partly from the enormous amount of penalties called in the game, partly because we don't know why they called the penalty or didn't call a penalty, partly because we don't know what a catch is or is not, what a fumble is or is not, and largely because of the all the social protests. It just isn't fun for me anymore.

Re: The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:13 pm
by HumanCockroach
Largent80 wrote:The Hawks eliminated themselves in two ways. Number one, Blair Walsh number two keeping the same offense.


Lol... by my count you can place one game on Walsh [Washington] and even that doesn't happen without interceptions thrown in defensive players guts.

Far more prevalent is the refusal to run an NFL offense, relying on explosive plays, and explosive plays only to score points... how about score some tds as an offense, then you don't have to pray your kicker saves your butt.

Re: The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:40 pm
by c_hawkbob
Largent80 wrote:The Hawks eliminated themselves in two ways. Number one, Blair Walsh number two keeping the same offense.


Our own fans are worse than the national press ... how 'bout let's wait till they're actually eliminated to declare why?

It's not likely to be a long wait, but seriously ...

Re: The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:25 pm
by RiverDog
c_hawkbob wrote:Our own fans are worse than the national press ... how 'bout let's wait till they're actually eliminated to declare why?

It's not likely to be a long wait, but seriously ...


It's not unusual for a fan base to be more critical of their team than the national press, especially in the week following what was a historic ass kicking.

But of course, you're right. We've all gotten pretty carried away this week.

Re: The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:07 pm
by Aseahawkfan
RiverDog wrote:It's not unusual for a fan base to be more critical of their team than the national press, especially in the week following what was a historic ass kicking.

But of course, you're right. We've all gotten pretty carried away this week.


I don't see the point of not stating something as a probability exceeding 95%. We're out unless some highly improbably chain of events occurs that is out of our control. If we still had control, I'd be hopeful. Once you lose control, you failed as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think our window is closed or anything stupid like that. We're injured. We have some weaknesses that have been weaknesses for years that have finally caught up with us. Time for Pete and John to address them or our window will close as we waste Russell's best years.

Re: The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:07 am
by RiverDog
Aseahawkfan wrote:I don't see the point of not stating something as a probability exceeding 95%. We're out unless some highly improbably chain of events occurs that is out of our control. If we still had control, I'd be hopeful. Once you lose control, you failed as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think our window is closed or anything stupid like that. We're injured. We have some weaknesses that have been weaknesses for years that have finally caught up with us. Time for Pete and John to address them or our window will close as we waste Russell's best years.


Yes, even if we win out, the odds are not in our favor for winning out. But as a fan, I'm not counting us out until we're mathmatically eliminated. As Yogi Berra once said: It's not over until it's over.

Chances are that my #12 flag comes down tomorrow evening.

Re: The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:41 am
by c_hawkbob
Aseahawkfan wrote:
I don't see the point of not stating something as a probability exceeding 95%. We're out unless some highly improbably chain of events occurs that is out of our control. If we still had control, I'd be hopeful. Once you lose control, you failed as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think our window is closed or anything stupid like that. We're injured. We have some weaknesses that have been weaknesses for years that have finally caught up with us. Time for Pete and John to address them or our window will close as we waste Russell's best years.


95% is our number against winning the division, we still have a 20% chance of making the playoffs.

Re: The 3 ways the 'Hawks make it in the playoffs

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:35 am
by RiverDog
c_hawkbob wrote:95% is our number against winning the division, we still have a 20% chance of making the playoffs.


And those are just straight odds, too, and doesn't take into account things like the Falcons having to play both the Saints and the Panthers. They could easily drop 2 straight.

I'm not one to hold out an unreasonable hope for the football Gods to have mercy on us, but no matter what the odds, I'll still be watching and rooting for us to win.