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Ken Norton Jr

Postby c_hawkbob » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:01 pm

NFLN says he's expected to be our new DC.
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby Agent 86 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:08 pm

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/10354/ken-norton-jr


Lol, love how they mention both OC and DC hires have been "uninspiring".
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby curmudgeon » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:09 pm

He is fiery. Back to the future.....
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby HumanCockroach » Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:35 pm

Makes me happy, I wanted him to take over back when it was between him and Richard.
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby jshawaii22 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:26 pm

I see him being more effective on the sidelines than the press box. Maybe the team will work out a way for him to be where the action is.
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby Aseahawkfan » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:30 pm

Hell yeah. Not sure how well he scan scheme or call a defense, but Pete can handle that. I am sure he will have those guys ready to ram their heads through a steel wall on the field.
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby Largent80 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:18 pm

This is full of Awesomeness.

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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby Hawk Sista » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:18 pm

I wondered about this. We shall see.
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby Hawk Sista » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:25 pm

I wondered about this. We shall see.
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby Seahawks4Ever » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:30 am

I too was surprised when Richard got the promotion and Ken. Jr. left. So, I always thought until this season that the Richard promotion had been a mistake, but Kris sure earned his pay this season, and then some. I like the move better than the B.S. move.
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Solari as the O-L coach ? I have heard good things about him, can't be worse than TC
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby obiken » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:07 am

Seahawks4Ever wrote:I too was surprised when Richard got the promotion and Ken. Jr. left. So, I always thought until this season that the Richard promotion had been a mistake, but Kris sure earned his pay this season, and then some. I like the move better than the B.S. move.
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Solari as the O-L coach ? I have heard good things about him, can't be worse than TC



I agree I this what should have been done in the first place. I love this move, at least he has some enthusiasm!
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby politicalfootball » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:08 am

Ken Norton Jr wow he has a great story and name recognition but can hear do the job ? Somebody tell me.
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:53 am

He's been at Pete's side since his days at USC and knows the ins and outs of the philosophy.
He's also won a fistful of Super Bowl rings as a player and coach, but even more, I think he gets immediate respect from all the players.
On the whole, I think it's a good move to have him back. I think he can read the Defense's emotional state pretty well and probably knows
how to press the right buttons (collectively).
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby Oly » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:02 am

NorthHawk wrote:He's been at Pete's side since his days at USC and knows the ins and outs of the philosophy.
He's also won a fistful of Super Bowl rings as a player and coach, but even more, I think he gets immediate respect from all the players.
On the whole, I think it's a good move to have him back. I think he can read the Defense's emotional state pretty well and probably knows
how to press the right buttons (collectively).


I think that respect angle is HUGE. That defense has some serious attitude, and if the players don't respect the coaches bad things happen...as we have seen since the SB debacle. If KNJ can get the players' respect, and he can, then I see this defense getting hungry again.
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby Rambo2014 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:15 am

No Imagination is the Grade I give you guys!

Sounds like you hired a few "YES" men
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby Largent80 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:27 am

Lamb-BLOW2014 wrote:No Imagination is the Grade I give you guys!

Sounds like you hired a few "YES" men


Have fun trying to pay all your players, Still salty from another ass whipping at home basement boy?
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby mykc14 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:11 am

Don't love this hire. It seemed like he was a good position coach but I'm not sold on him as a coordinator. His D in Oakland, with some of the best young players in the league wasn't very good.

In 2015 his D Ranked: 22nd in total yards (pass 26th and rush 12); scoring D ranked 22nd

In 2016: 26th total yards (pass 24th and rush 22nd); scoring D 19th

But the biggest area of concern for me was his 2017 season. When he was let go (after week 10) The Raiders were 26th in the league in yards and by the end of the season they moved up to 19th (Moved up 7 positions in 6 weeks)... The also went from the 2nd worst scoring D (25 pts/game) to 23 pts/game which was 19th...

To me these numbers do not inspire confidence. That's not to say that he won't learn from his stint in Oakland or that he won't be more successful running PC's scheme than Del Rio's.
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby politicalfootball » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:24 pm

Number crunching is best done when you consider every state also the intangibles that doesn't have a Super Bowl attached to it.

Lambo please leave us alone ! Go to another board !

Go Seahawks
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:15 pm

mykc14 wrote:Don't love this hire. It seemed like he was a good position coach but I'm not sold on him as a coordinator. His D in Oakland, with some of the best young players in the league wasn't very good.

In 2015 his D Ranked: 22nd in total yards (pass 26th and rush 12); scoring D ranked 22nd

In 2016: 26th total yards (pass 24th and rush 22nd); scoring D 19th

But the biggest area of concern for me was his 2017 season. When he was let go (after week 10) The Raiders were 26th in the league in yards and by the end of the season they moved up to 19th (Moved up 7 positions in 6 weeks)... The also went from the 2nd worst scoring D (25 pts/game) to 23 pts/game which was 19th...

To me these numbers do not inspire confidence. That's not to say that he won't learn from his stint in Oakland or that he won't be more successful running PC's scheme than Del Rio's.


I think it's quite difficult to run your Defense when your boss is hands on with his concepts.
It would be like Pete hiring Wade Phillips and constantly wanting to do things differently.
It up just wouldn't be successful.
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby RiverDog » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:17 am

I'm not too worried about who we hire as DC. Norton seems to me to be a coach that the players respect, something that wasn't always evident when Richard was calling the shots (remember Sherman's tirades?), which in my mind is an essential attribute. The real DC of this team is Pete Carroll.
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby Uppercut » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:33 am

Seems Norton went with the Niners just long enough to get in their building and hopefully grab their playbook
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby Aussie Hawk » Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:37 am

Uppercut wrote:Seems Norton went with the Niners just long enough to get in their building and hopefully grab their playbook

Or he was there just long enough for them to grab his playbook.
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Re: Ken Norton Jr

Postby NorthHawk » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:19 am

Welcome Aussie.

Everyone knows Seattle's Defense. It's just difficult to beat if executed properly.
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