c_hawkbob wrote:https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2018/4/15/17238878/cowboys-news-chatter-grows-about-cowboys-possibly-pursuing-earl-thomas
Heavy sigh ...
burrrton wrote:Like I said before, if they do this, they might as well see what they can get for Wagner and Wilson while they're at it- we'll be going nowhere until they're both far beyond their primes.
RiverDog wrote:I disagree. Teams can turn around damn quickly in the NFL as there's tons of rags-to-riches stories. It took Pete two years, 2010 and 2011, to get this team into a SB caliber club as IMO we were the best team in the conference at the end of the 2012 season.
NorthHawk wrote:And we won with a very inexperienced QB and emerging leaders on Defense.
We now have some of the important pieces in place, so we will have to see if they can build enough around them to compete at a high level.
I believe in what Belichek says, that it's better to trade a player a year too early than a year too late. We learned that lesson the hard way with Sherman.
burrrton wrote:Is Earl just "a player", though?
Belichek has been smart enough to not bail on Brady- this feels like it would be bailing on Brady (and yeah, I know QB is a uniquely important position, but still).
RiverDog wrote:You might want to think of another example.
NorthHawk wrote:How about 2 2nd round picks? 1 this year and another next year.
That would help them out and get us our 2nd round pick we lost last year in the Brown trade.
NorthHawk wrote:How about 2 2nd round picks? 1 this year and another next year.
That would help them out and get us our 2nd round pick we lost last year in the Brown trade.
RiverDog wrote:North Hawk stated the problem perfectly. Earl has all the leverage. If he were willing to go to a half dozen or so teams, then we'd be able to auction him to the highest bidder. But since there's only one place that he's willing to go to, it reduces his market value considerably.
Aseahawkfan wrote:How does he have all the leverage when we can use the franchise tag on one of the few players worth tagging?
NorthHawk wrote:He has enough money to retire if he doesn't think he's being paid enough.
Then we get nothing for him.
He has much of the leverage in this case.
NorthHawk wrote:He has enough money to retire if he doesn't think he's being paid enough.
Then we get nothing for him.
He has much of the leverage in this case.
Aseahawkfan wrote:How does he have all the leverage when we can use the franchise tag on one of the few players worth tagging?
RiverDog wrote:
It seems apparent that Earl wants out. He's already not showing up for voluntary workouts and there's talk that he might hold out if he doesn't get an extension or we acceed to his trade demands. This could get ugly, stain a relationship between our franchise and one of the all time greatest Hawks players. We slap the FT on him and he could take it as a slap in the face. I don't think it's a good option.
The way I see it is that we have two viable options: Give him an extension if he's genuinely committed to playing for us another 3-4 years or trade him.
mykc14 wrote:I don’t think using the F-Tag is the best option, but it is an option. Also, we are talking about leverage here, not what we will or won’t do. The F-Tag may not be an attractive option to the fans, it may have the potential to cause a rift between us and ET, and could end with him retiring instead of signing but that’s only if we use it. The leverage lies in the fact that we COULD use it. That’s all we need to keep the cowboys from feeling like they can wait and get him as a FA. It’s the same thing ET has done with his threat to hold out- it’s a leverage tactic. He has some leverage in that he can hold out... it’s not the best option, it might cause a rift between him and the Hawks, but it gives him some leverage. It’s the exact same idea.
RiverDog wrote:
The F-tag is the NFL's equivalent to the nuclear option. It's only effective if the other side thinks that we might use it. Besides, it would only come into play next season when his contract is up. If we're going to trade Earl, the ideal time to do it is this season. We wait another year and who knows, maybe he goes down with a career threatening injury ala Sherman.
So I say that we either poop or get off the pot. Either trade Earl now or sign him to a 3-4 year extension. This is not something we want left hanging in limbo for another year.
NorthHawk wrote:Not much leverage if he says it's not worth it without an extension and retires.
He has a lot of leverage in that single act, and we can either re-sign him or trade him if we want to get anything from him.
NorthHawk wrote:Not much leverage if he says it's not worth it without an extension and retires.
He has a lot of leverage in that single act, and we can either re-sign him or trade him if we want to get anything from him.
NorthHawk wrote:ET said today he has no plans to hold out and will be in camp as expected.
Aseahawkfan wrote:ET's a pro. I'd like to extend him and see him retire a Seahawk, though I know it is unlikely.
Aseahawkfan wrote:ET's a pro. I'd like to extend him and see him retire a Seahawk, though I know it is unlikely.
Zorn76 wrote:Two 2nd rounders I'd take for Thomas, all things considered.
With RW's next deal not too far down the road, I don't think we give a 'thank you' deal to ET.
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