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Just some random thoughts on the game.
Add more if you wish.

Like: How the Defense stopped the Panthers in the Red Zone
Didn't like: Giving up 475 yards between the 20's

Like: Causing 5 Carolina fumbles
Didn't like: Not recovering any of them

Like: How Wilson ended the game
Didn't like: How Wilson started the game

Like: The pass protection
Didn't like: Run blocking

Like: Cris Carson running hard
Didn't like: He's shown that he's getting a little loose with the ball

Like: McDougald's interception in the End Zone
Didn't like: Overall pass defense

Like: Carolina only scored 27 points
Didn't like: The were in the Red Zone 7 times

Like: Pulling it out at the end'
Didn't like: Use of Timeouts unnecessarily (IMO) early in the game in particular

That's a pretty good list. I do want to add Tyler Lockett as a like. 5 targets, 5 catches, 100+ yards and a TD. He also does a great job on punt returns, doesn't put the ball on the ground.

I'll add our pass rush, or lack thereof, as a don't like. Almost zero pressure on Cam.

I think Carolina was determined to stop our run game so I'm not sure the run blocking was that bad. I just wish that RW had hit some of the earlier passes to back their defense off a bit to open up the run better.

Like how we put it away did not like how Carolina hung in there and we didn't put them away. Liked Carson run game did not like his being loose with the rock. Like that Wilson out played Cam , did not like Wilson hanging on to the ball. Like the int by MCDougal did not like Griffins absence would like to see him more. Frank Clark one sack good would like to see him more

I don't want to hijack this thread but did anyone else notice that on the play where Carson fumbled it was a leg whip that wasn't called against the defense? What's that about?

idhawkman wrote:I don't want to hijack this thread but did anyone else notice that on the play where Carson fumbled it was a leg whip that wasn't called against the defense? What's that about?

I noticed that, too. There's been a few other games where there were leg whips that weren't called. Perhaps they're loosening up on calling them.

A leg whip is very easy to hide

It was pretty obvious in that there wasn't a lot of traffic around him at the time.

NorthHawk wrote:Just some random thoughts on the game.
Add more if you wish.

Like: How the Defense stopped the Panthers in the Red Zone
Didn't like: Giving up 475 yards between the 20's

Like: Causing 5 Carolina fumbles
Didn't like: Not recovering any of them

Like: How Wilson ended the game
Didn't like: How Wilson started the game

Like: The pass protection
Didn't like: Run blocking

Like: Cris Carson running hard
Didn't like: He's shown that he's getting a little loose with the ball

Like: McDougald's interception in the End Zone
Didn't like: Overall pass defense

Like: Carolina only scored 27 points
Didn't like: The were in the Red Zone 7 times

Like: Pulling it out at the end'
Didn't like: Use of Timeouts unnecessarily (IMO) early in the game in particular

Okay, this whole did not like the way Wilsons started is getting old and is not always true example Wilson was 2-4 in the 1st qtr. we are really going to say that is slow when you only get 4 attempts. I mean basically, then any QB who is 0-1 had a slow start. But let's look at 2nd qtr 5-8. Now lets look even further- of his misses 3 were 3rd and long 7 or more yards. So sorry none of that says started slow, it says limited attempts and lots of 3rd and long

Wahhhhhhhh.....wahhhhhh...wahhhhhh... you guys are so mean.... lmfao

HumanCockroach wrote:Wahhhhhhhh.....wahhhhhh...wahhhhhh... you guys are so mean.... lmfao

Still not bringing nothing to the table, sad

Anthony wrote:Okay, this whole did not like the way Wilsons started is getting old and is not always true example Wilson was 2-4 in the 1st qtr. we are really going to say that is slow when you only get 4 attempts. I mean basically, then any QB who is 0-1 had a slow start. But let's look at 2nd qtr 5-8. Now lets look even further- of his misses 3 were 3rd and long 7 or more yards. So sorry none of that says started slow, it says limited attempts and lots of 3rd and long

Anthony, Russell started out the game 4-9, including missing high to Doug Baldwin in the end zone from 15 yards out that resulted in us having to settle for 3 points. To be fair and to pre-empt you from saying that I only highlight the negative, he turned it around and from that point, went 18-22.

Russell had 31 attempts for the game, so completing 4 out of his first 9 represents a little less than 30% of his passes, meaning that it is statistically significant. It is fair to say that he had a slow start.

RiverDog wrote:Anthony, Russell started out the game 4-9, including missing high to Doug Baldwin in the end zone from 15 yards out that resulted in us having to settle for 3 points. It was a slow start for him as from that point, he went 18-22.

Russell had 31 attempts for the game, so completing 4 out of his first 9 represents a little less than 30% of his passes, so it is statistically significant.

First of you should relook at the play, if you did you would see 2 things, 1 DB stopped and then started again, 2 a guy right in Wilsons arm motion causing him to not be able to follow through. 2nd and again the point was starting slow 4-9 is not starting slow, it is a lack of attempts and since he is not the play caller try asking why it took so long for them to adjust. So the fact he did not start slow he just did not get the attempts, and again he does not call the plays. So sad.

Anthony wrote:First of you should relook at the play, if you did you would see 2 things, 1 DB stopped and then started again, 2 a guy right in Wilsons arm motion causing him to not be able to follow through. 2nd and again the point was starting slow 4-9 is not starting slow, it is a lack of attempts and since he is not the play caller try asking why it took so long for them to adjust. So the fact he did not start slow he just did not get the attempts, and again he does not call the plays. So sad.

You forgot to include the bad hamstring.

As I said, 9 passing attempts out of 31 for the game is roughly 30%. No matter what you are measuring, 30% is a pretty big slice of the pie.

We won a game in Carolina that we should not have won. We won, we're still alive. Never in all my time of being a Hawk fan have I been so wrong, so many times, and left so happy!

RiverDog wrote:
You forgot to include the bad hamstring.

As I said, 9 passing attempts out of 31 for the game is roughly 30%. No matter what you are measuring, 30% is a pretty big slice of the pie.

You forgot you have nothing. wow 9 passes is 29% of his passes spread out of 2 qtrs. That means he got to through 22 in the 2nd half you think it mattered him being able to get into a flow? Of course and once again 4 of 9 is not starting slow, it is not have enough chances. The reality is your are reaching badly and it shows, its really sad, but given your agenda not surprising, but sad.

Anthony wrote:You forgot you have nothing. wow 9 passes is 29% of his passes spread out of 2 qtrs. That means he got to through 22 in the 2nd half you think it mattered him being able to get into a flow? Of course and once again 4 of 9 is not starting slow, it is not have enough chances. The reality is your are reaching badly and it shows, its really sad, but given your agenda not surprising, but sad.

Make your mind up, Anthony. If you say that he didn't start out slow, then why would you say that it took 17 minutes for him to "get into a flow"? You're contradicting yourself.

Also, 17 minutes (Russell's 9th passing attempt was at 12:48 in the 2nd quarter) divided by 60 minutes is 28%. Russell's 9 attempts out of his first 31 passing attempts is, as you noted, 29%. Pretty evenly distributed.

obiken wrote:We won a game in Carolina that we should not have won. We won, we're still alive. Never in all my time of being a Hawk fan have I been so wrong, so many times, and left so happy!

I'm right there with ya, Obi! I'm going to the Niners game this weekend, and was worried that we'd be playing for nothing but draft positioning by now. Boy, was I wrong!

RiverDog wrote:
Make your mind up, Anthony. If you say that he didn't start out slow, then why would you say that it took 17 minutes for him to "get into a flow"? You're contradicting yourself.

Also, 17 minutes (Russell's 9th passing attempt was at 12:48 in the 2nd quarter) divided by 60 minutes is 28%. Russell's 9 attempts out of his first 31 passing attempts is, as you noted, 29%. Pretty evenly distributed.

NIce try let me guess whats next the truth is not the truth? He did not start slow, he only had 9 attempts, as I pointed out 3 of his missed were 3rd and long. It is tough for any QB to get anything going when you only get 9 attempts. That said completing 4 of 9 with 3 of the misses being 3rd and long is not starting slow, IT is not getting enough attempts. Under your questionable thought process if he went 0-0 in the first half he would be starting slow, which would be crap. All your attempts to find a way to justify why only 9 attempts are enough to say he started slow is crap and you know it. He did not start slow. 4 of 9 is not starting slow.so sad.

obiken wrote:We won a game in Carolina that we should not have won. We won, we're still alive. Never in all my time of being a Hawk fan have I been so wrong, so many times, and left so happy!

RiverDog wrote:I'm right there with ya, Obi! I'm going to the Niners game this weekend, and was worried that we'd be playing for nothing but draft positioning by now. Boy, was I wrong!

Good on ya, both. As for myself, were about were I figured we'd be right now (maybe a game ahead of schedule) and in great shape for our late season playoff push.

Still not bringing nothing to the table, sad


Anthony

Nothing needs to be brought, you add nothing to any conversation. I don't make a habit of making the less intelligent even more self conscious, besides you're doing a bang up job making yourself look the fool as usual. I don't need to bring anything, for someone that brings it on himself.

HumanCockroach wrote:
Nothing needs to be brought, you add nothing to any conversation. I don't make a habit of making the less intelligent even more self conscious, besides you're doing a bang up job making yourself look the fool as usual. I don't need to bring anything, for someone that brings it on himself.

Rudi still nothing, let me know when you get something, till then well I will pray for you.

obiken wrote:We won a game in Carolina that we should not have won. We won, we're still alive. Never in all my time of being a Hawk fan have I been so wrong, so many times, and left so happy!

RiverDog wrote:I'm right there with ya, Obi! I'm going to the Niners game this weekend, and was worried that we'd be playing for nothing but draft positioning by now. Boy, was I wrong!

c_hawkbob wrote:

Good on ya, both. As for myself, were about were I figured we'd be right now (maybe a game ahead of schedule) and in great shape for our late season playoff push.

I always predict 19-0 for the season until we lose a game but from here on out I think we are the team no one wants to play. We can be dangerous if we play our game and get "into rhythm" quicker in the early quarters.

idhawkman wrote:I always predict 19-0 for the season until we lose a game but from here on out I think we are the team no one wants to play. We can be dangerous if we play our game and get "into rhythm" quicker in the early quarters.

I agree

I would argue 10-6 11-5

River, what is the scoop on the blood feud with Anthony and Human?

Nobody got a broken neck or other bad injury. I was able to watch it in peace, quite and comfort. My neighbor offered to take me to a game. It was a very exciting game imho . Cam Newton proved he was a posturing prima dona although good. Christian was good but you know should've been drafted lower. The refs present but not disruptive. Seahawks picked good uniforms, they looked really sharp , nothing ugly. I had no problem with the coaches at all that I could see.

One of my favorite wins this season
It's shaping up to be a fine year we have.