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The Evolution of Russell Wilson

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:57 pm
by Anthony

Re: The Evolution of Russell Wilson

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:58 am
by Vegaseahawk
Nice piece on our leader. I liked the shark & pilotfish analogy.

Re: The Evolution of Russell Wilson

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:51 pm
by HumanCockroach
The desperation spinouts are few and far between, and Wilson’s clearly become more comfortable manipulating the pocket to give himself the best chance to make a throw downfield.

Wilson still takes a few too many sacks, but he’s done a good job of stifling his first instinct to escape.

Wilson bailed from clean pockets at the slightest hint of pressure, dropping his eyes in the face of oncoming pass rushers or spinning away right into an edge defender.

Hater. :lol:
If only some of us had been pointing this out earlier..... oh, wait a minute....

Re: The Evolution of Russell Wilson

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:08 pm
by Anthony
Vegaseahawk wrote:Nice piece on our leader. I liked the shark & pilotfish analogy.


Yeah it is, unlike some posts that basically are nothing but negative stuff, this one makes some points, that while minor have some legitimacy, but more importantly make it clear that those issues are disappearing as he gets more used to actually having a pocket, something he did not have much most of his career. Unlike some who would say he does not do this or that spin out, leave a clean pocket etc, this article makes it clear those were not issues of his own doing with this "Playing behind a series of terrible pass-blocking offensive lines over the past couple of seasons, Wilson developed a few pretty bad habits." making it clear these issues were a by-product of playing behind a horrible oline something some refused to give validity to. A huge difference between that and the severe negativity that some most. All in all, now that the oline is at least middle of the pack, both PFF and Footballousdiers have them ranked 18th in pass blocking, he can now trust it enough to stand pat, despite still being the 4th most pressured QB in the league.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dtf7oBkWwAEakbQ.jpg

Be interesting to see how some try to spin this to suit their narrative about Wilson. Hopefully, they will just man up and admit their wrong or say nothing, but I am guessing that will not happen.

Re: The Evolution of Russell Wilson

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:05 pm
by HumanCockroach
I just posted what most "narratives" said that were stringently hashed, re hashed, excused and blatantly lied about.... so yeah, I'll be waiting for you to "man up" and admit that what was being said, wasn't bashing, or a false narrative, but actual discussion by those not wishing to roll in Wilson's dirty jocks...

Get on it fan boy, there's a whole lot of us you owe an apology, and admission of cluelessness to...

I ain't holding my breath though, as I simply don't see you capable of it.

Re: The Evolution of Russell Wilson

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 2:45 am
by Anthony
Here is some more interesting info to go with that article and the link on under pressure. Wilson is #3 in hardest throw attempts

{url}https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1067089862598291458?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1067089862598291458&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seahawks.net%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D2%26t%3D150984%26start%3D450[/url)

And yet he still complets over 66% of his passes andn a QB rating over 115. Now imaghine as the original story said "Playing behind a series of terrible pass-blocking offensive lines over the past couple of seasons."

Hmm seems someone here tried to blame it all on Wilson and said the oline was fine, HMM seems as expected he was wrong. Avg pass block ranking of our oline over Wilson times in seattle #26th. Dont worry I know they will not man up, only adults man up, hence why he is foed, I only converse with adults.

Oh and guess what when the game is on the iine guess who is #1

{url}https://twitter.com/Pat_Thorman/status/1068159414702669828?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1068159414702669828&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seahawks.net%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D2%26t%3D150984%26start%3D500[/url}

and more

2nd highest all time Qb rating adn one of only 2 over 100
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtLvxUQWkAAkWvV.jpg

oh and a little comparison of the betetr QBs and look who is right there
TOM BRADY 2015 -> 2018

54 G | 43-11

65.7%
113 TD
24 INT
7.8 YPA
103.1 Passer Rating

Rushing

1.6 YPC
106 Yards
5 TD

2 Receptions for 42 yards.

PFF O-Line Rankings 2015-2018 [[ 25,10,11,3 ]] with them

AARON RODGERS 2015 -> 2018

49 G | 28-20=1

63.2%
106 TD
22 INT
7.2 YPA
99.2 Passer Rating

Rushing

5.5 YPC
987 Yards
5 TD

0 Receptions

PFF O-Line Rankings 2015-2018 [[ 7,5,13,5 ]]

DREW BREES 2015 -> 2018

56 G | 33-23

71%
113 TD
35 INT
8.0 YPA
105.2 Passer Rating

Rushing

0.7 YPC
74 Yards
8 TD

1 Reception for 1 Yard.

PFF O-Line Rankings 2015-2018 [[ 3,12,9,11 ]]

RUSSELL WILSON 2015-2018

58 G | 34-23-1

64.8%
112 TD
35 INT
7.8 YPA
100.6 Rating

Rushing

5.3 YPC
1625 Yards
5 TD

3 Receptions for 3 Yards and a TD.

PFF O-Line Rankings 2015-2018 [[ 30,32,27,19 ]]

Notice the oline rankings and who had it way worse, Wilson

like the article said due to the horrible oline play Wilson got a few bad habits, but like any ELITE player he has worked them out as th eline has gotten better, and despite the horrific oline play of the past few years he still performed at ELITE levels. nough said

Re: The Evolution of Russell Wilson

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:48 am
by Hawktawk
Yes the naysayers were as good at denying the line was terrible as you were at denying Russ had a hint of a problem in his game which was caused in large part by said TERRIBLE line. It was really quite amazing they won 9 games last year but it was nauseating to watch.

I think some kudos are in order for PC and JS as well. Schottenheimer has proven to be a really good play caller. The line has been much better although the Fluker thing is a bummer.Bringing in guys like Jaron Brown, David Moore, Ed Dickson has allowed the receiving corps to flourish even with a banged up Baldwin. McAvoy has stepped up with some big catches but the real coup was getting Lockett under contract.

I was a critic of paying 10 million a year for what was a role player guy but he's gone off. He and Russ have combined for an astonishing PERFECT passer rating on throws over 20 yards minimum of 10 targets, once again proving Russ has the best prettiest wrinkle free deep ball in the league. The defense is still a work in progress but has been ball hawking and made big stops in critical moments despite the jettisoning of numerous big names via trades, cuts, or injuries forcing retirements.

The Hawks started the season as 27th in the power rankings and now sit 7th last I checked. They are on the cusp of making the tourney and making some noise if they get there but they need 3 of the last 4 IMO to get there so lets keep it going Russ and Co! My kid said they were going 11-5 before the season and i'm not ruling it out. We will learn a lot on Monday.

Re: The Evolution of Russell Wilson

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:36 pm
by HumanCockroach
Nah....

Re: The Evolution of Russell Wilson

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:56 pm
by Anthony
Hawktawk wrote:Yes the naysayers were as good at denying the line was terrible as you were at denying Russ had a hint of a problem in his game which was caused in large part by said TERRIBLE line. It was really quite amazing they won 9 games last year but it was nauseating to watch.

I think some kudos are in order for PC and JS as well. Schottenheimer has proven to be a really good play caller. The line has been much better although the Fluker thing is a bummer.Bringing in guys like Jaron Brown, David Moore, Ed Dickson has allowed the receiving corps to flourish even with a banged up Baldwin. McAvoy has stepped up with some big catches but the real coup was getting Lockett under contract.

I was a critic of paying 10 million a year for what was a role player guy but he's gone off. He and Russ have combined for an astonishing PERFECT passer rating on throws over 20 yards minimum of 10 targets, once again proving Russ has the best prettiest wrinkle free deep ball in the league. The defense is still a work in progress but has been ball hawking and made big stops in critical moments despite the jettisoning of numerous big names via trades, cuts, or injuries forcing retirements.

The Hawks started the season as 27th in the power rankings and now sit 7th last I checked. They are on the cusp of making the tourney and making some noise if they get there but they need 3 of the last 4 IMO to get there so lets keep it going Russ and Co! My kid said they were going 11-5 before the season and i'm not ruling it out. We will learn a lot on Monday.


I never said he did not have a hint of a problem, I said the problem was a by-product of a horrible online, something some refused to acknowledge, despite the overwhelming evidence.

Re: The Evolution of Russell Wilson

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:26 pm
by Anthony

Re: The Evolution of Russell Wilson

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:16 pm
by HumanCockroach
Nah

Re: The Evolution of Russell Wilson

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:14 pm
by Anthony
So everyone says Rodgers is Elite, guess what so is Wilson, who has out played him head to head over the last 3+ seasons.

https://twitter.com/theryanmichael/status/1065068420046163968

Re: The Evolution of Russell Wilson

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:51 am
by politicalfootball
Wilson is elite ever since our Superbowl win vs Broncos in 2013. He also has many playoff appearances and is on a win streak and will beat the Vikings on Monday .