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Clowney's Injury

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:04 am
by RiverDog
This one is a bit confusing. When Clowney was inactivated for the Philly game, the word was that it was a hip injury. Now we find out that he has a sports hernia. Here's what Pete had to say:

So why didn’t the Seahawks send Clowney to see (hernia specialist) Meyers sooner? Like, in the 12 days between between when he got hurt during the win over the 49ers and Sunday’s game he missed against the Eagles?

“It didn’t show up as clearly. It wasn’t defined,” Carroll said.

That infers Clowney was away on his bye-week, away from the team knowing the extent of his pain. “Often, that injury is hard to tell,” Carroll said. “Is it a hip flexor? Is it a groin? It’s always been that case. After you eliminate all the things it could be, it generally comes back to the sports-hernia thing. We’ve been watching this for years with different guys. It just took a while to realize that he’s going to need to at least get looked at by the specialist. We did that."


https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/n ... 73519.html

Did our medical staff miss something?

Also on the injured list is Jarran Reed, who left the Philly game with a sprained ankle. He's to be re-evaluated Friday:

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/footb ... es-injury/

Re: Clowney's Injury

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:29 am
by Hawktawk
I’ve heard Clowney plans to play Monday and Reed is considered more of a long shot . This sucks . Defense is just getting cranked up.

Re: Clowney's Injury

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:18 am
by NorthHawk
Sports hernia's are always a concern if they occur, but, like other injuries there are degrees of damage.
According to one website, they occur where the abductors and abdominals attach to the pubic bone.
From what I've read over the years, if they are minor, they can heal themselves, or at
the very least can be managed until the season is over, but have to be addressed
at some point with either surgery or extended time off and rehab. I hope it's minor
and doesn't get worse from playing, but that's always a risk.

Here's a website I just found that gives a good explanation.

https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseases- ... -pubalgia/

Re: Clowney's Injury

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:23 am
by RiverDog
Thanks for the info, North Hawk. Six years ago, I had surgery on an inguinal hernia. Recovery is relatively fast as I resumed my normal activities in a couple of weeks. Not sure how much relationship there is with sports hernias, but my impression is that a sports hernia isn't as serious as an inguinal. I have a second hernia on my other side of my groin, but the surgeon said that I might be able to go the rest of my life and never need it repaired.

Hopefully both those guys can go Monday, but this isn't a super critical game as even with a loss, we'll still be in good shape heading into our playoff run.

Re: Clowney's Injury

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:07 pm
by NorthHawk
RiverDog wrote:Thanks for the info, North Hawk. Six years ago, I had surgery on an inguinal hernia. Recovery is relatively fast as I resumed my normal activities in a couple of weeks. Not sure how much relationship there is with sports hernias, but my impression is that a sports hernia isn't as serious as an inguinal. I have a second hernia on my other side of my groin, but the surgeon said that I might be able to go the rest of my life and never need it repaired.

Hopefully both those guys can go Monday, but this isn't a super critical game as even with a loss, we'll still be in good shape heading into our playoff run.


The article says it can be caused by twisting which is something that happens on just about every play or tackle.
I can't imagine it not getting worse because of that, but maybe in the long term it might work to our advantage if we want to re-sign him as he would be somewhat damaged goods.
He's still going to cost a lot, though.

Re: Clowney's Injury

PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:53 pm
by RiverDog
NorthHawk wrote:The article says it can be caused by twisting which is something that happens on just about every play or tackle.
I can't imagine it not getting worse because of that, but maybe in the long term it might work to our advantage if we want to re-sign him as he would be somewhat damaged goods.

He's still going to cost a lot, though.


Yea, I think my racquetball playing attributed to my developing a hernia. Lots of twisting and turning in that sport.

At this point, I'm not at all concerned how this might or might not affect contract negotiations with Clowney during the offseason. Let's cross that bridge when we come to it.

I want him as healthy as possible for our stretch run and the playoffs. He doesn't seem to be a player that's overly concerned about his own health vs. helping his team win ala Cam Newton, so I think he'll play if at all possible, but I don't want to see him endanger his career and long term health, either.

Re: Clowney's Injury

PostPosted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:00 pm
by obiken
This is why I am not for a long term signing of Clowney, he his history reads like a medical record than a Sports Card.

Re: Clowney's Injury

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:59 pm
by Hawktawk
Clowney and J Reed are both playing Monday per Pete.

Re: Clowney's Injury

PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:11 pm
by RiverDog
Hawktawk wrote:Clowney and J Reed are both playing Monday per Pete.


That's great news! I don't think Pete would let them play if they were anything less than 100%. It's not a do-or-die game.

Re: Clowney's Injury

PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:58 pm
by I-5
Don't you think we have lots of players that play the whole season at less than 100%, even in non-do or die games? I would assume that's a normal thing.

Re: Clowney's Injury

PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:14 am
by RiverDog
I-5 wrote:Don't you think we have lots of players that play the whole season at less than 100%, even in non-do or die games? I would assume that's a normal thing.


I suppose 100% is overstating it a bit, but the point is that IMO Pete's aware of the length of the season and the relative importance of each game and that if that there was any question that that playing them would jeopardize either the team's long term chances or the player's health he'd make them sit out.