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by **RiverDog** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:58 am

ESPN has a pretty neat playoff machine that I've been messing around with:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

We have to be one of the few, if not the only, team in the league that with two weeks left to go in the season, could end up with either the #1 seed or the #7 seed. To secure the #1 seed, Packers would have to lose out vs. the Titans and Bears and the Saints would have to lose one of their last two vs. the Vikings and Panthers while we win our final two games with the Rams and Niners. That seems pretty unlikely.

If we beat the Rams Sunday, the division is ours no matter what the outcome of the Week 17 games are. We would get no lower than the #3 seed. Our opponent in the first round would be either the Bucs, Rams, or Cards in our house.

If we lose to the Rams, the division title is still possible depending on the outcome of next week's games. The Cards would have to beat the Rams and we'd have to win our game with the Niners.

If we lose to the Rams in Week 16 and in the following week lose to the Niners and/or the Rams win vs. the Cards, we would be awarded a seed that could vary from #5 to #7. Our opponent in the first round would be either the Rams, WFT, the Packers, or the Saints. We would open the playoffs on the road.

So, the question arises. If we win on Sunday and lock up the #3 seed and we assume that the Packers win their Week 16 contest, we will have either the #2 seed or the #3 seed with no chance of a first round bye. Would it be worth it for us to pull all the stops out in our finale with the 49'ers and try for the #2 seed, which we might not get anyway, or do we rest our starters for what could be a very long road in January?

Edit: I couldn't come up with a scenario that had a team other than the Rams, Seahawks, Cards or Bucs getting the 7th seed, but the Rams have yet to clinch a playoff spot. Perhaps that means a tie somewhere? Does anyone know under what scenario the Rams would miss the playoffs? It would have to involve the Bears.

by **obiken** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 9:30 am

Real simple River, we lose to the Rams and we are done, period!

by **mykc14** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:10 am

RiverDog wrote:ESPN has a pretty neat playoff machine that I've been messing around with:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

We have to be one of the few, if not the only, team in the league that with two weeks left to go in the season, could end up with either the #1 seed or the #7 seed. To secure the #1 seed, Packers would have to lose out vs. the Titans and Bears and the Saints would have to lose one of their last two vs. the Vikings and Panthers while we win our final two games with the Rams and Niners. That seems pretty unlikely.

If we beat the Rams Sunday, the division is ours no matter what the outcome of the Week 17 games are. We would get no lower than the #3 seed. Our opponent in the first round would be either the Bucs, Rams, or Cards in our house.

If we lose to the Rams, the division title is still possible depending on the outcome of next week's games. The Cards would have to beat the Rams and we'd have to win our game with the Niners.

If we lose to the Rams in Week 16 and in the following week lose to the Niners and/or the Rams win vs. the Cards, we would be awarded a seed that could vary from #5 to #7. Our opponent in the first round would be either the Rams, WFT, the Packers, or the Saints. We would open the playoffs on the road.

So, the question arises. If we win on Sunday and lock up the #3 seed and we assume that the Packers win their Week 16 contest, we will have either the #2 seed or the #3 seed with no chance of a first round bye. Would it be worth it for us to pull all the stops out in our finale with the 49'ers and try for the #2 seed, which we might not get anyway, or do we rest our starters for what could be a very long road in January?

Edit: I couldn't come up with a scenario that had a team other than the Rams, Seahawks, Cards or Bucs getting the 7th seed, but the Rams have yet to clinch a playoff spot. Perhaps that means a tie somewhere? Does anyone know under what scenario the Rams would miss the playoffs? It would have to involve the Bears.

I think, obviously, the best first round position (other than the #1 seed) is the #5 seed, especially this year with no fans in the stands. I felt that way last year too, and it was, but it wasn’t the best place to be to make a deep run. We want the highest seed we can get. The #2 seed, although not as important this year, gives you a great chance at 2 hole games and an outside chance at 3. The #3 seed is a tough one, even though it is where we sit now. You have a tough matchup this year and then you are basically locked into traveling to the #2 seed. The good need is that #2 seed isn’t coming off a bye so you actually have a better chance as a #3 this year than in years past. There’s give and take with all of the seeds except #1. At the end of the day we need to get on a run and finish the regular season strong and head into the post season healthy and feeling good about our offense and defense. If we play well and avoid injuries this next two weeks we can feel pretty good about our chances!

by **RiverDog** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:37 am

mykc14 wrote:I think, obviously, the best first round position (other than the #1 seed) is the #5 seed, especially this year with no fans in the stands. I felt that way last year too, and it was, but it wasn’t the best place to be to make a deep run. We want the highest seed we can get. The #2 seed, although not as important this year, gives you a great chance at 2 hole games and an outside chance at 3. The #3 seed is a tough one, even though it is where we sit now. You have a tough matchup this year and then you are basically locked into traveling to the #2 seed. The good need is that #2 seed isn’t coming off a bye so you actually have a better chance as a #3 this year than in years past. There’s give and take with all of the seeds except #1. At the end of the day we need to get on a run and finish the regular season strong and head into the post season healthy and feeling good about our offense and defense. If we play well and avoid injuries this next two weeks we can feel pretty good about our chances!

Regarding the #2 seed. If the Saints lose today, we could take the #2 seed if we win our last two games. If we were to beat the Rams, how would you approach our game next week with the 49'ers? Do you pull out all the stops, knowing that a lot of the 49'er players will be playing for their careers and not much caring if they pick up a personal foul penalty, or do you rest some of our starters and get them ready for the playoffs?

Personally, I'd say to hell with that #2 seed and treat the Niners game more like a preseason contest.

I'm pretty much a Lombardi-or-bust type of fan, so I don't really care who we are matched up against. The way I look at it, if we don't think we can beat Tom Brady and the Bucs, I don't see how we can feel that we'd ever stand a chance against Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs or Josh Allen and the Bills. If we feel that we are a deserving world champion, then we should think that we can beat anyone. I know that's more of a romantic way of looking at it vs. a practical way, but it represents how I feel.

by **RiverDog** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:53 pm

I finally figured out how the Rams, or for that matter, the Cards, can be displaced from the playoffs by the Bears:

In Week 16, the Rams must lose to the Seahawks and/or the Cards to the Niners while the Bears beat the Jags. If that happens, the loser of the Cards-Rams game in Week 17 could be displaced by the Bears if they beat the Packers....unless the Rams-Cards game results in a tie.

Clear as mud?

by **Rambo2014** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 2:09 pm

Rams own the NFC West

One glitch last week can happen to any team

But Rams will give a thorough beating to the Seahawks this weekend and wine the west the following week

You guys team dont want to play on the frozen tundra and GB anyhows

Rams 42
Sea 6

by **NorthHawk** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:31 pm

RiverDog wrote:I finally figured out how the Rams, or for that matter, the Cards, can be displaced from the playoffs by the Bears:

In Week 16, the Rams must lose to the Seahawks and/or the Cards to the Niners while the Bears beat the Jags. If that happens, the loser of the Cards-Rams game in Week 17 could be displaced by the Bears if they beat the Packers....unless the Rams-Cards game results in a tie.

Clear as mud?

Ugh.
Just win them both and play whatever team is next. Like you said, it shouldn’t matter who we play
because we have to beat the best to win it all. That being said, I think we have to beat the Rams first
and the way we’ve been playing who knows what team will show up.

by **Aseahawkfan** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:51 pm

NFC is pretty wide open. No dominant team. Just whoever does the best on a given day. Anyone can beat anyone in the NFC as has been proven over the course of the season.

AFC is the same way except for the Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs are the only dominant team out there with their amazing QB. I don't see anyone stopping them in the playoffs.

by **RiverDog** » Fri Dec 25, 2020 4:38 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:NFC is pretty wide open. No dominant team. Just whoever does the best on a given day. Anyone can beat anyone in the NFC as has been proven over the course of the season.

AFC is the same way except for the Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs are the only dominant team out there with their amazing QB. I don't see anyone stopping them in the playoffs.

Agreed about the NFC.

The AFC seems to have 3 or 4 teams that are better than any in the NFC. Along with just about everybody else, I like the Chiefs, but I do think that Buffalo might give them a run for their money. Josh Allen is quietly having a heck of a year.

by **Hawktawk** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:21 am

Seattle is as balanced as any team in the NFC at the perfect time. Its just our all world QB isn't quite himself. Oh well the 9ers rode a mediocre QB and a great D and a good run game to a near super bowl victory last year. Other than the 1 seed there's really no advantage to going all out in week 17

I kind of agree with the take on KC in the AFC but then again Baltimore is back on the horse, Titans are a sold well coached team with an underrated QB and the most physical back in the league. And Mahomes threw 3 picks last week. Not even mentioning the 11-3 Stealers, its like Big Ben broke down right in front of our eyes. Browns? I dunno, They go as Mayfield goes and he's just too erratic at times. Colts withy Rivers? Its likely gonna take at least 10 wins to get in on the AFC side.

The AFC team Im not sleeping on is the Bills. The last couple of months they are playing as well as anyone, their QB is just a big mobile stud with a laser arm who has gotten over the boneheaded plays trying to do too much and improved his accuracy greatly. Any given sunday they say. But I wouldnt be shocked to see them win out.

by **RiverDog** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:45 am

Hawktawk wrote:Seattle is as balanced as any team in the NFC at the perfect time. Its just our all world QB isn't quite himself. Oh well the 9ers rode a mediocre QB and a great D and a good run game to a near super bowl victory last year. Other than the 1 seed there's really no advantage to going all out in week 17

I kind of agree with the take on KC in the AFC but then again Baltimore is back on the horse, Titans are a sold well coached team with an underrated QB and the most physical back in the league. And Mahomes threw 3 picks last week. Not even mentioning the 11-3 Stealers, its like Big Ben broke down right in front of our eyes. Browns? I dunno, They go as Mayfield goes and he's just too erratic at times. Colts withy Rivers? Its likely gonna take at least 10 wins to get in on the AFC side.

The AFC team Im not sleeping on is the Bills. The last couple of months they are playing as well as anyone, their QB is just a big mobile stud with a laser arm who has gotten over the boneheaded plays trying to do too much and improved his accuracy greatly. Any given sunday they say. But I wouldnt be shocked to see them win out.

I'm not quite convinced that our D has turned the corner, at least not to the point where we can consider ourselves SB contenders. We've played some very poor offenses led by some horrible quarterbacking over the past month. Sunday's game against the Rams will be a little better test as they have a solid OL/rushing attack and although Goff isn't going to be compared to Brees or Rodgers, is better than Carson Wentz/Dwayne Haskins/Sam Darnold/Colt McCoy that we've faced recently.

I agree with everything else you said, though.

by **TriCitySam** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:51 pm

The best thing I’ve seen with our D recently is that we are tackling way better. If we can run, win TO battle, I think the D is good enough to make us a tough out.

by **trents** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:51 pm

Don't look now but the Bucs are putting things together here at the end of the regular season. I would have written them off early in the season but the Brady bunch is coming on strong.

by **RiverDog** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 6:13 pm

trents wrote:Don't look now but the Bucs are putting things together here at the end of the regular season. I would have written them off early in the season but the Brady bunch is coming on strong.

The Lions were a mess. Not only has their head coach and GM been fired, their interim HC, Darrell Bevell, and 4 other assistants were not allowed to participate today due to the COVID protocol. In addition, starting QB Matt Stafford left the game with an injury on the first drive and never returned. They've been eliminated from the playoffs and their locker room has been a revolving door. Today was their 7th loss in their last 9 games, including the last 3 in a row.

The Lions were a runaway train heading for a washed out bridge and an easy mark for a team that is in the middle of a playoff drive. Brady didn't even play in the 2nd half. I wouldn't read too much into the Bucs beating them like they did.

by **obiken** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:06 pm

True River, but our OLine has to get by Aaron Donald, and I dont see that happening. I hope I am wrong.

by **c_hawkbob** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:40 pm

obiken wrote:True River, but our OLine has to get by Aaron Donald, and I dont see that happening. I hope I am wrong.

The defensive line we just faced was every bit as tough as the one we're about to.

by **HawkDawg** » Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:13 pm

What is disturbing to me it that we have all of the talent in the world. D is finally showing up. Run game, we're solid. Receivers, we're breaking records. Tight ends, we're looking ok. Linemen are decent. And now we have a QB that is starting to choke??? If he was back to an A+, we would be a serious threat. These last few games are a pivotal point in his career. Somehow I think it will be pulled of, because that's what we're used to. He is a winner and wants to make a point (so I hope). The planets are aligned. Hoping I'm not proven wrong.

by **RiverDog** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:29 am

A couple crazy games related to the playoffs yesterday. Kyler Murray showed that he isn't ready for Prime Time. He certainly wasn't ready for Amazon Prime. The used-to-be solid gold Robbie Gould misses two FG's inside 40 yards and an XP that would have given the Niners a 2 score lead 1/2 way through the 4th quarter. Cards let a MASH unit known as the 49'ers, a team kicked out of their own digs, beat them with their walking wounded. Bears fans still have hope. Can you envision Mitch Turbisky as a Super Bowl MVP?

In the nightcap, it was hard for me to believe that Gruden chose to run down the clock and leave enough time on the clock for a couple of plays rather than punching it in and pushing the lead out to 5-7 points. I'm wondering if that was what the new found coaching bible of analytics told him to do. I was underwhelmed by Tua, and apparently Flores was, too. Reminds me a lot of Matt Leinart. I wonder if he sits from here on out. COVID protocol and those damn masks has denied us the sideline looks at Chucky.

by **NorthHawk** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:18 am

We will have to go to the playoffs without Snacks Harrison as he's asked to be released because he was put on the inactive list.
I don't know what they are doing with him as he's played pretty well for the most part and just rounding into game shape.
Nine tackles and a forced fumble in 6 games, but he's clogged up the middle like he's supposed to.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... lease-him/

by **RiverDog** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:31 am

NorthHawk wrote:We will have to go to the playoffs without Snacks Harrison as he's asked to be released because he was put on the inactive list.
I don't know what they are doing with him as he's played pretty well for the most part and just rounding into game shape.
Nine tackles and a forced fumble in 6 games, but he's clogged up the middle like he's supposed to.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... lease-him/

Why did we put him on the inactive list for today? The article didn't say.

by **mykc14** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:15 am

NorthHawk wrote:We will have to go to the playoffs without Snacks Harrison as he's asked to be released because he was put on the inactive list.
I don't know what they are doing with him as he's played pretty well for the most part and just rounding into game shape.
Nine tackles and a forced fumble in 6 games, but he's clogged up the middle like he's supposed to.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... lease-him/

I read Bryan Mone healthy and backs off the IR and he was starting over Snacks when both were healthy.

by **NorthHawk** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:14 am

Mone is coming off of an injury. Sometimes these linger and if he should re-injure it, and Harrison is gone, we are now dangerously thin up the middle
while heading into the playoffs.

by **jshawaii22** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:10 pm

Harrison has been a starter all his career, so it's not in his genes to sit on the bench. He came in very out of shape, worked his way back into playing shape and was OK when he moved into the lineup when we had injuries and the suspensions on the DLine. I can understand him not wanting to be shelved. Note that he put out a text stating how much he appreciated the time he was here and holds no ill will to the team or Pete.

by **obiken** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:52 pm

The defensive line we just faced was every bit as tough as the one we're about to.

No, not really.

by **Aseahawkfan** » Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:54 pm

Defense giving up these 3rd downs are killing us. They are playing a great game today, but get off the fricking field.

We should have this game. It would take some egregious mistakes for the Rams to pull this out.

by **NorthHawk** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:28 am

Aseahawkfan wrote:Defense giving up these 3rd downs are killing us. They are playing a great game today, but get off the fricking field.

We should have this game. It would take some egregious mistakes for the Rams to pull this out.

I die a little inside when we keep giving up 3rd down conversions. It seems to be the same every game and frustrating as hell.

by **obiken** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:05 am

I die a little inside when we keep giving up 3rd down conversions. It seems to be the same every game and frustrating as hell.

This is why I would prefer not to play the Rams, even if Geoff is out, they just dont need may points to win.

by **RiverDog** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:53 am

obiken wrote:This is why I would prefer not to play the Rams, even if Geoff is out, they just dont need may points to win.

Not me. The way our offense has been performing, I'd much rather take our chances in a low scoring game against someone like the Rams and a turnover prone Jared Goff vs. trying to stop Rodgers or Brees. Goff has a league high 39 turnovers over the past two seasons. Plus he's extremely uncomfortable outside the pocket. He's the worst quarterback in the league when he's under pressure.

On that note, Aaron Rodgers has a TD/INT ratio of 44/5. He's having an incredible season and the odds on favorite for MVP.

by **obiken** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:41 pm

Not me. The way our offense has been performing, I'd much rather take our chances in a low scoring game against someone like the Rams and a turnover prone Jared Goff vs. trying to stop Rodgers or Brees. Goff has a league high 39 turnovers over the past two seasons. Plus he's extremely uncomfortable outside the pocket. He's the worst quarterback in the league when he's under pressure.

On that note, Aaron Rodgers has a TD/INT ratio of 44/5. He's having an incredible season and the odds on favorite for MVP.

Moot point now Riv, He is out. Surgery on his thumb is going to have to happen soon. So you might be right, they are down to a backup that has not played an NFL game.

by **NorthHawk** » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:26 pm

The Rams hope to have Goff back for the playoffs. I don’t know how they can do that but maybe
they are looking past the first game or are just creating a positive atmosphere for the team.

by **Hawktawk** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:45 am

The Rams cant be worse with the other kid than Goff is currently playing. That scheme is a throw by the numbers guaranteed open receiver every play offense. When Goff was on it was unstoppable. The team may well be better with the head case JGoff riding the pine.

by **RiverDog** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:19 am

Hawktawk wrote:The Rams cant be worse with the other kid than Goff is currently playing. That scheme is a throw by the numbers guaranteed open receiver every play offense. When Goff was on it was unstoppable. The team may well be better with the head case JGoff riding the pine.

I agree. Goff deserved to be benched long ago, and I suspect that the reason why McVay didn't pull the plug is because they were in the playoff hunt and he didn't have a viable backup. I'm not sure why the Rams didn't sign a decent, experienced backup as there were a lot of them out there and Goff had played poorly in 2019. Now they have a real problem on their hands as they've signed Goff to a huge contract.

We can see what a benching can do to a quarterback that's playing poorly by looking at the effect it had on Mitch Turbisky.

by **Hawktawk** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:15 am

RiverDog wrote:
I agree. Goff deserved to be benched long ago, and I suspect that the reason why McVay didn't pull the plug is because they were in the playoff hunt and he didn't have a viable backup. I'm not sure why the Rams didn't sign a decent, experienced backup as there were a lot of them out there and Goff had played poorly in 2019. Now they have a real problem on their hands as they've signed Goff to a huge contract.

We can see what a benching can do to a quarterback that's playing poorly by looking at the effect it had on Mitch Turbisky.

I'm quite intrigued by what Flores is doing with Fitz and Tua. He pulled Fitz with a winning record and has now benched Tua twice including in the 4th quarter of the incredible win over the faders.Can I get a witness? that facemask completion by Fitz is one of the craziest plays I've ever witnessed

Everyone seems cool and they have an outside shot at the postseason with a win although the Bills look formidable

. There's gonna be lots of questions around the league regarding QBs. Goff. Garoppolo, Darnold.What about Matt Ryan's humongous deal? Wendz? Trashbiski may have saved his career in Chicago. Or he may have fooled the GM into thinking he can play. Time will tell as he is Seattle's only hope of the #1 seed right now.

With the revenue situation league wide my guess is some pretty well known people will be looking for work if they haven't been producing.

by **RiverDog** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:17 am

Hawktawk wrote:I'm quite intrigued by what Flores is doing with Fitz and Tua. He pulled Fitz with a winning record and has now benched Tua twice including in the 4th quarter of the incredible win over the faders.Can I get a witness? that facemask completion by Fitz is one of the craziest plays I've ever witnessed Everyone seems cool and they have an outside shot at the postseason with a win although the Bills look formidable.

I wasn't real impressed with Tua, although I have to admit that the Raiders game was the first time I'd seen him play at the NFL level. Fitz looks like the far more superior QB, not j/b of his results, but just the way he manages the pocket and gets the ball downfield. Tua reminds me too much of Matt Leinart.

There's gonna be lots of questions around the league regarding QBs. Goff. Garoppolo, Darnold.What about Matt Ryan's humongous deal? Wendz? Trashbiski may have saved his career in Chicago. Or he may have fooled the GM into thinking he can play. Time will tell as he is Seattle's only hope of the #1 seed right now.

With the revenue situation league wide my guess is some pretty well known people will be looking for work if they haven't been producing.

You hit the nail on the head. Cam isn't likely to be back with the Pats, which is one of the reasons why the rumor about Haskins got started. There's been speculation that the Lions might want to part ways with Mathew Stafford. They're going to have a new coach that might want his own man. And what about the Cowboys? They didn't sign Dak and now he's sustained a major injury. What's Jerruah going to do? Will Worthlessburger retire? Will Brady hang it up?

It will be an interesting offseason. Thankfully we won't be part of that drama.

by **Hawktawk** » Tue Dec 29, 2020 11:53 am

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/re ... r-BB1ck109
I linked this to another one of these threads. I can't see any self respecting HC or GM wasting their time with a guy who couldn't stick with a coach who dealt with Cam Newton for years. The guy has been spoon fed his whole life, he's got some cash, he's not gonna put in the effort. I won't root against him but i doubt he will ever mature.

by **RiverDog** » Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:25 am

I thought that this would be worth remembering:

Rambo2014 wrote:Rams own the NFC West

One glitch last week can happen to any team

But Rams will give a thorough beating to the Seahawks this weekend and wine the west the following week

You guys team dont want to play on the frozen tundra and GB anyhows

Rams 42
Sea 6

Happy New Year, Ramblo!

by **Hawktawk** » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:00 am

RiverDog wrote:
The Lions were a mess. Not only has their head coach and GM been fired, their interim HC, Darrell Bevell, and 4 other assistants were not allowed to participate today due to the COVID protocol. In addition, starting QB Matt Stafford left the game with an injury on the first drive and never returned. They've been eliminated from the playoffs and their locker room has been a revolving door. Today was their 7th loss in their last 9 games, including the last 3 in a row.

The Lions were a runaway train heading for a washed out bridge and an easy mark for a team that is in the middle of a playoff drive. Brady didn't even play in the 2nd half. I wouldn't read too much into the Bucs beating them like they did.

The lions did not even want to be out there. They didn't want to tackle, take a hit, block, run, catch a pass.I know it was Chase Daniel out there but I've never seen even him look that bad.Hes played games in the league. If I were a member of that team there would have been a JJ Watt postgame eruption.Maybe I'm not giving the Tampa D enough credit?

It really doesn't prove much about Tampa other than you have to be pretty much in tune to put up a 40 burger on any team. I think any team with Tom Brady, Gronk who is improving by the day, Mike Evans etc, a wily HC with playoff coaching experience in Arians and a fairly decent defense has to be considered a serious contender.

by **Hawktawk** » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:05 am

RiverDog wrote:I thought that this would be worth remembering:
Rams own the NFC West

One glitch last week can happen to any team

But Rams will give a thorough beating to the Seahawks this weekend and wine the west the following week

You guys team dont want to play on the frozen tundra and GB anyhows

Rams 42
Sea 6
Happy New Year, Ramblo!

LOL right? The classy fans of opposing teams used to come eat their crow. And they didnt just post nonsensical blathering drivel either. Sad. The Lambs might sit home 2 years in a row :lol:

by **Hawktawk** » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:08 am

I am curious to see how their new QB plays though, He's never played a down in a regular season game but he was an stud in his last gig. Mobile and fairly accurate but slight of stature. https://www.nfl.com/news/rams-qb-john-w ... -cardinals

McVeigh said all the right things about him so who knows. But frankly any coach who could get to a superbowl with that goofy faced airhead Goff is a QB whisperer for sure.No QB in my memory has done less with more.

by **Klanky** » Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:37 pm

Saints Kamara test positive for COVID, that could be a huge loss for Sunday when they need to win or slide to #3 , that’s assuming Seahawks take care of business, then would jump to #2 seed, so who knows

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