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Adams out, Witherspoon doubtful for opener

Postby RiverDog » Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:43 am

No surprise about Adams. He's only been participating in walk-throughs in practice, so it wouldn't surprise me if he's not a full go until Week 4. I'm more concerned about Witherspoon. Hamstring injuries are tricky and can linger.
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Re: Adams out, Witherspoon doubtful for opener

Postby NorthHawk » Sat Sep 02, 2023 6:50 am

They should have put Adams on the PUP list and added another body to the team. That would give us 4 weeks to see others play but up to 7 weeks to adjust the roster all told if I remember the rules correctly.
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Re: Adams out, Witherspoon doubtful for opener

Postby RiverDog » Sat Sep 02, 2023 12:01 pm

NorthHawk wrote:They should have put Adams on the PUP list and added another body to the team. That would give us 4 weeks to see others play but up to 7 weeks to adjust the roster all told if I remember the rules correctly.


Yeah, they should have waited to activate him as he's almost certainly not going to be available in Week 2 and if he does play in Weeks 3 and 4, it's most likely going to be very limited anyway. Maybe it's just my suspicious mind getting to me, but I get the sense that Pete is going way out of his way to salvage what to this point has been one of the worst trades/signings in team history and he's making moves he'd otherwise not consider doing.
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Re: Adams out, Witherspoon doubtful for opener

Postby 4XPIPS » Sun Sep 03, 2023 1:01 pm

I agree, sounds like they miss judged his recovery and should have left him on the PUP list and waited till he was a full go. However, it will be nice to see what we have in J Love, and rookie Jerrick Reed
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Re: Adams out, Witherspoon doubtful for opener

Postby Spohawk5092 » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:57 am

time to get rid of Adams, he is just far to fragile.
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Re: Adams out, Witherspoon doubtful for opener

Postby RiverDog » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:24 am

Spohawk5092 wrote:time to get rid of Adams, he is just far to fragile.


It's probably not happening until next season. If we were to cut him this year, we'd have to absorb a $23M cap hit. Pete and John painted themselves into a corner with that contract they gave him, and it's going to take another 9 months for it to dry.
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Re: Adams out, Witherspoon doubtful for opener

Postby NorthHawk » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:32 am

If it works out that he's expendable next year (it would seem by their actions that injury is the only reason they would cut ties) it would be best to designate him a post June 1st cut to spread the remaining Cap hit over 2 years.
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Re: Adams out, Witherspoon doubtful for opener

Postby NorthHawk » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:44 am

RiverDog wrote:No surprise about Adams. He's only been participating in walk-throughs in practice, so it wouldn't surprise me if he's not a full go until Week 4. I'm more concerned about Witherspoon. Hamstring injuries are tricky and can linger.


I read an article that talked about Kupp and his hamstring injury and that they're worried because it happened at the beginning of August and he had a setback. So how bad is the Witherspoon injury as he's been dealing with it since before the Draft and hasn't been 100% yet? I sure hope he's been seeing some specialists about what is causing his problems. Maybe that's why he wanted his signing bonus up front?
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Re: Adams out, Witherspoon doubtful for opener

Postby RiverDog » Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:25 am

NorthHawk wrote:If it works out that he's expendable next year (it would seem by their actions that injury is the only reason they would cut ties) it would be best to designate him a post June 1st cut to spread the remaining Cap hit over 2 years.


My understanding is that if he's a post June 1st cut that we could either absorb a $14m cap hit in one season or a $7m hit spread over two seasons.
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Re: Adams out, Witherspoon doubtful for opener

Postby RiverDog » Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:50 am

RiverDog wrote:No surprise about Adams. He's only been participating in walk-throughs in practice, so it wouldn't surprise me if he's not a full go until Week 4. I'm more concerned about Witherspoon. Hamstring injuries are tricky and can linger.


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NorthHawk wrote: read an article that talked about Kupp and his hamstring injury and that they're worried because it happened at the beginning of August and he had a setback. So how bad is the Witherspoon injury as he's been dealing with it since before the Draft and hasn't been 100% yet? I sure hope he's been seeing some specialists about what is causing his problems. Maybe that's why he wanted his signing bonus up front?


I read something similar about Kupp, that they are concerned that he might be out for the season.

Your comment about Witherspoon reminds me of the Brian Bosworth incident, where it was speculated that he knew that he had a chronic shoulder injury/damage and that his career was likely to be very short, hence his insistence on a guaranteed contract.
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Re: Adams out, Witherspoon doubtful for opener

Postby NorthHawk » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:00 am

From the tin foil hat perspective, it makes sense for him to hold out for more up front money.
I really don't know if it's a factor, but, yeah it does have echoes of the Bosworth era.
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Re: Adams out, Witherspoon doubtful for opener

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:32 am

According to an article I read, Witherspoon is practicing, but it's doubtful that he will play in the opener.
I hope he's completely healed before he gets on the field.
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