Spohawk5092 wrote:Get a good start, put some points up, and then play a consistent game....no stupid offensive holding penalties, ..we are 5 point underdogs by oddsmakers. WE are going to find out how good we are now in this game and going forward!
RiverDog wrote:Yeah, Mafe is a beast and having a breakout season. But the offense continues to stumble. We're 1-6 on 3rd down. The D can't win this game on their own.
4XPIPS wrote:The sad truth here, this is exactly what I expected from the Seahawks. Geno is extremely limited to what he can or can not do, and this offense is too predictable and doesn't have the play designs that newer offense run today. Most of us shouldn't be surprised.
Oly wrote:The Ravens are a better team than the Hawks. Full stop. Sure, we can point out the 3rd down issues that have plagued this team all season and note how Geno hasn't been playing well. But in my mind, this is just a Ravens defense that is better than the Hawks' offense and it shows. Our OL has been confused, beaten man-to-man, or both all game and the result is the inept offense we've been seeing.
The run D is porous, and I think Hurtt's schemes are leaving way too many pockets of space in the 2nd level, but they aren't playing terribly. Not well, but not terribly.
I'm not too surprised, and most of us came into the season thinking that the Hawks were a tier below the real contenders, and this game just shows that we were right about that. It does make me surprised that PC/JS thought this team was close enough that a 10-game rental of Leonard Williams would make a difference.
4XPIPS wrote:Well when you give up a 2nd round pick to bolster the DL.. This move usually indicates you are making a deep playoff run. We aren't out of the playoff race by any means, but we can't hang with a top tier team with this QB and this offense. I think Pete is convinced we have an offense to compete with, but he needs a slap across the face to wake his a$$ up and realize our offense is average at best. I was expecting to lose this game, but at least put a fight and that is the part that hurts more than anything.
Oly wrote:The Ravens are a better team than the Hawks. Full stop. Sure, we can point out the 3rd down issues that have plagued this team all season and note how Geno hasn't been playing well. But in my mind, this is just a Ravens defense that is better than the Hawks' offense and it shows. Our OL has been confused, beaten man-to-man, or both all game and the result is the inept offense we've been seeing.
The run D is porous, and I think Hurtt's schemes are leaving way too many pockets of space in the 2nd level, but they aren't playing terribly. Not well, but not terribly.
I'm not too surprised, and most of us came into the season thinking that the Hawks were a tier below the real contenders, and this game just shows that we were right about that. It does make me surprised that PC/JS thought this team was close enough that a 10-game rental of Leonard Williams would make a difference.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I want the 2nd round pick back. Maybe they'll make me not want it back down the line, but right now we were way outclassed by Baltimore. I'd rather have the 2nd round pick to find another good LB or O-line.
Spohawk5092 wrote:can't wait to hear Pete's thoughts/comments after this disaster.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I want the 2nd round pick back. Maybe they'll make me not want it back down the line, but right now we were way outclassed by Baltimore. I'd rather have the 2nd round pick to find another good LB or O-line.
Oly wrote:The Hawks need more talent in the trenches before they're going to go anywhere.
NorthHawk wrote:We're a 2nd or maybe a 3rd tier team. We have additional talent from last years draft, but we're still a number of players short of competing against the very good teams. This loss reminds me a bit of when we lost to the Rams at home and they just pushed us around the field.
What we saw on Sunday was us being dominated on both sides of the ball by a very good team and it might show us what to expect from the tough games ahead on the schedule.
We might win one or two of them, but it won't be because we are the better team, rather because we might get lucky or the other team have a real off day.
Otherwise, I se us losing to the 9ers twice, Eagles, Cowboys, and maybe even the Rams who always play us tough. The Titans to me can be very dangerous but they aren't very good yet and the Steelers for some reason make a tough game for us.
RiverDog wrote:Yeah, well I complained loudly about our taking a wide receiver with a first rounder and yet another running back with a 2nd rounder and didn't get a bit of sympathy in this forum. Now, we're getting outclassed on the line of scrimmage. The chickens are coming home to roost.
We're spending way too much capital on wide receivers, running backs, and safeties while not paying enough attention to the big uglies. Take a look at the way Philly's built their team.
NorthHawk wrote:We need another good draft. Unfortunately we've done well with 2nd round picks but traded away one of them for a rental. We can probably trade down, but then we would probably lose a 1st round pick which comes with the optional 5th year.
With our Cap so tight next year, some major changes look to be in the cards. I thought they would have begun addressing it this year, but as it stands now looking at next year we are already pretty much Capped out with about 12 starting FA's of our own to possibly re-sign. The biggest problem is at Safety. Something like $46M of Cap space is being used on 3 players at a non premium position. As well, we will have a major decision on whether to cut Geno or pay him about $40M/year AAV. I'm not sure we can really justify paying a player who is playing at a mid level top quarter money. But we don't have a QB being developed to fall back on because we haven't drafted one that can play since 2012. It's going to be interesting times my friends in the Cap world.
NorthHawk wrote:We need another good draft.
RiverDog wrote:
Yeah, if we draft just one more running back or one more wide receiver with our 1st or 2nd pick, that'll fix our offense for sure!
Aseahawkfan wrote:We traded a 2nd round pick for a 10 game rental. The player will now have leverage because the Seahawks have wasted draft capital they can't get back to obtain him and thus will likely have to overpay to retain him.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I'm tired of that lack of patience in team building. They did not show this lack of patience when Pete and John first arrived. Now they are making these mistakes far too often.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I want a new coach and perhaps GM at this point. One that is going to show patience building a team. I'm tired of trading quality draft capital for players like a Leonard Williams, older, not in our future, and only a 10 game rental with a team that must re-sign him or they just traded a 2nd round pick for a 4th round equivalent pick. Especially when 2nd round picks can produce such high quality players at LB and O-line.
NorthHawk wrote:Why would they do that? Are they that blind to not be able to see we aren't anywhere near close yet to truly competing for a championship?
c_hawkbob wrote:We got our arses handed to us. Again. We're very good against average teams but we suck right out loud against great ones. Sure would be nice to have Levis about now.
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