NorthHawk wrote:Is that stat balls thrown in the Receivers direction or is it drops/defended plays?
It's hard for me to imagine Lockett dropping 1/3 of the throws his way.
If it's balls thrown in the Receivers direction then a number of things could be in play with some of them being throwing the ball away, poor route running, bad throws, good defensive play, predictable play calling, unimaginative route trees, and more.
c_hawkbob wrote:Yeah, still need drops to complete the picture.
4XPIPS wrote:Nearly half of DK's passes are uncatchable... goodness. Look at Keenan Allen catchable passes, pretty damn good accuracy. I hope we get Bo Nix next year
NorthHawk wrote:We aren’t seeing many passes in the middle of the field like we did early last year.
It’s much like we saw with Wilson under Bevel and Schottenheimer and the common denominator is Pete Carroll. It makes it easier for the Defense to plan and defend because they don’t have to worry much about the middle of the field. When we do throw up the middle, it’s often for a good gain.
RiverDog wrote:That's not necessarily on the QB. Many of Metcalf's routes are low percentage passes 20-30 yards up the sideline and into tight windows. I'm sure that Keenan Allen's targets are a little higher percentage.
RiverDog wrote:That's not necessarily on the QB. Many of Metcalf's routes are low percentage passes 20-30 yards up the sideline and into tight windows. I'm sure that Keenan Allen's targets are a little higher percentage.
4XPIPS wrote:I do think Geno has some culpability with uncatchable balls. I have seen plenty of deep passes from Geno to DK where the ball is floated at our right out of bounds, and there have been a handful of times where DK does come down with it but it's out of bounds. Not putting this all on Geno, and most likely not poor route running, but more like limited route running skills. I think Geno to DK is just a poor combination to warrant a vertical passing threat.
4XPIPS wrote:Follow the Money, according to Spotrac, and yes this is about Receptions vs Targets, but since we are comparing top WRs in the league, might as well make your eyes water as to how much the Hawk's banked on DK.
2023 WR Top Guaranteed Money Rankings.
This is just the guaranteed money, and the rest of the contract are usually small bonuses, or structured money to alleviate cap space which then become dead money when a player is waived or traded away. The guaranteed money is by far the most important part of any player's contract whether it be signing bonus and/or salary.
1) Cooper Kupp $75m
2) Tyreek Hill $72.2m
3) Stefon Diggs $70m
4) Davante Adams $65.67m
5) Amari Cooper $60m
6) Dk Metcalf $58.2m
7) Deebo Samuel $58.1m
8) A.J. Brown $57.22m
9) Mike Evans $55m
10) Terry McLaurin $53.15m
tied at 15th) Lockett $37m
Of course Chase and Jefferson are rookie contracts, and will most likely crush those numbers when they are ready to contract up.
RiverDog wrote:
Yeah, that's the really ugly part of this story. Whether it's Metcalf's fault or not, we're not getting our money's worth. His receiving numbers are all in the mid to lower 20's while his salary is in the top 10.
NorthHawk wrote:We have a history under Carroll whereby we get a good player (usually on Offense), then don't know how to use them or they don't fit what we are doing.
Graham is the biggest example, but add in Metcalf and have him run mainly deep routes into double coverage, and now we have JSN and aren't doing much of what he was really good at in College. Fant was brought in because he's a good receiving TE but we don't throw it much to TEs in a Peteball Offense. Waldron was brought in to give us a modern day Offense and Pete has apparently cut him off at the knees and put in a similar Offense as to what we had during Wilson's tenure.
Pete wants to throw to the sidelines because the sideline gives less opportunity for a turnover. Most of the passes are thrown such that either the receiver gets it or it falls harmlessly out of bounds.
Metcalf would do much better on another team that knows or permits the WRs to use the entire field along with deception and expanded route trees. As it is this Offense limits him to largely being a one trick pony.
NorthHawk wrote:We have a history under Carroll whereby we get a good player (usually on Offense), then don't know how to use them or they don't fit what we are doing.
Graham is the biggest example, but add in Metcalf and have him run mainly deep routes into double coverage, and now we have JSN and aren't doing much of what he was really good at in College. Fant was brought in because he's a good receiving TE but we don't throw it much to TEs in a Peteball Offense. Waldron was brought in to give us a modern day Offense and Pete has apparently cut him off at the knees and put in a similar Offense as to what we had during Wilson's tenure.
Pete wants to throw to the sidelines because the sideline gives less opportunity for a turnover. Most of the passes are thrown such that either the receiver gets it or it falls harmlessly out of bounds.
Metcalf would do much better on another team that knows or permits the WRs to use the entire field along with deception and expanded route trees. As it is this Offense limits him to largely being a one trick pony.
4XPIPS wrote:Couldn't agree more. Name the last time DK's ran a jet sweep, or took an inside handoff between the tackles? These are the plays that Deebo Samuel makes all the time. I have even seen C. Lamb, a much smaller built WR, take inside handoffs on misdirection to create mismatches. DK is purely an X wide receiver.
NorthHawk wrote:When was the last time DK ran a deep post or post corner route? If he's just running down the sideline, it's easy for defenders to predict and prepare for. We saw him in square in types of routes at the end of games doing well, but where are those routes earlier in the game when we aren't in desperation mode?
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