Aseahawkfan wrote:Not even going to watch. I don't like either of those teams.
curmudgeon wrote:This SB will be the first I have not watched. Zero interest in the Tay Tay all the time psyop messaging……
Agent 86 wrote:The decisions that Dan Campbell made yesterday on the passing of the FG attempts to make it 27-10 (and take momentum back with an answer to their 3 to start the 2nd half) and then the one to tie the game at 27 is absolutely mind boggling. A coach stuck in his ways, going with what got him there instead of realizing the situation isn't the same as a regular season game. Some of the poorest coach management I can ever recall.
If you have not watched this yet (probably haven't and not sure the link will work as it's from a Canadian show), watch our boy Luke Willson tear into Campbell, and deservedly so. Other than the debacle of a play at the end of 49, Willson said the two decisions by Campbell are up there at 2 and 3 as the worst play calls he can recall in his time.
I am still shaking my head at what he could have possibly been thinking. Who goes for it on 4th and 2 with a 14 point lead on the road when you have a 46 yard FG attempt in good conditions to answer back the 3 your opponent just got, make it a 3 score game again, and suck the life back out of the stadium? The benefit of converting is no where close to the ramifications of you failing that conversion, everyone knows that. Except Dan Campbell. This was a coach that put all his players and coaches under undue stress and pressure in a bad way, and we see how they all responded.
Am I too harsh on Campbell? I think if I was a Lions fan, for all the good this man has done for your organization, this to me is almost unforgivable. I think Luke Willson is spot on. I feel he speaks for all Seahawks fans on this one cause we all don't like the 49ers and wanted them to lose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99wetrF3XCU
PS....Luke Willson has been doing football coverage on TSN now for 2 years I think, and is simply awesome. I love his takes and being an ex Seahawk who I always liked, I find I agree with most of his takes.
RiverDog wrote:Yeah, Campbell got cute. It's not a bad strategy to go for it early in the game when you have time to make up for it if you don't make it, but not in the 4th quarter. Take the frigging points and make it a one score game, give your team a chance to win.
I also didn't like that 3rd and goal play call from our potential HC. Throw the ball twice and save your timeouts.
Oh, well....Niners and Chiefs in the Superb Owl. Yawn.
There was a flag on the play that was picked up. I guarantee you that had the pass been intercepted or incomplete PI would have been called on Sutton……if Sutton actually intercepts that deep ball that bounces off his mask into the hands of Aiyuk, that changes the game.
RiverDog wrote:Yeah, Campbell got cute. It's not a bad strategy to go for it early in the game when you have time to make up for it if you don't make it, but not in the 4th quarter. Take the frigging points and make it a one score game, give your team a chance to win.
I also didn't like that 3rd and goal play call from our potential HC. Throw the ball twice and save your timeouts.
Oh, well....Niners and Chiefs in the Superb Owl. Yawn.
4XPIPS wrote:I think Campbell called a good game, and it his MO to go on 4th downs and you have to live with in your DNA. Campbell isn't dropping passes on critical third down plays when Goff is putting where it is suppose to be. if Sutton actually intercepts that deep ball that bounces off his mask into the hands of Aiyuk, that changes the game. If the punt return team downs the ball at the 1 yard line instead of stepping into the end zone. This game came down a few big plays that bounced the whiners way. I didn't have an issue with the way Campbell/Johnson called the game. Just when it came down certain big plays the Lions missed their opportunities, and fortune was on the side of the 49ers.
RiverDog wrote:Yeah, there were a lot of very close plays that had they gone the other way, would have completely changed the outcome, and not just those that favored the Lions. But the one that gets all the publicity is the coaching decisions because we can more easily put ourselves into that position. There were two huge plays in the 3rd quarter that swung the balance: Jahmyr Gibbs' fumble and Brandon Aiyuk's 51-yard gain on a pass that should have been picked. Plus, the Lions had three critical drops, one by TE Sam LaPorta and 2 by WR Josh Reynolds. If any of those go the other way, we could very well be having a much different conversation.
Campbell called a good game relative to his style, which I think is what you're saying. As a coach or any other person in authority, you want to be consistent, and as you said, it's in his DNA to go for it in that situation. Besides, analytics called the decision a tossup:
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2024/1/29/ ... ship-49ers
As they say, hindsight is 20/20. All I know is that my gut instinct was to take the points. But then again, I'm old school.
4XPIPS wrote:I think Campbell called a good game, and it his MO to go on 4th downs and you have to live with in your DNA. Campbell isn't dropping passes on critical third down plays when Goff is putting where it is suppose to be. if Sutton actually intercepts that deep ball that bounces off his mask into the hands of Aiyuk, that changes the game. If the punt return team downs the ball at the 1 yard line instead of stepping into the end zone. This game came down a few big plays that bounced the whiners way. I didn't have an issue with the way Campbell/Johnson called the game. Just when it came down certain big plays the Lions missed their opportunities, and fortune was on the side of the 49ers.
Agent 86 wrote:
While I agree Campbell didn't drop the passes, or fumble the ball, or put his foot in the end zone to make it a touchback instead of the ball at the 1 yard line, it was his decision to go for that 4th and 2 up 14 points that put his players in those positions that if they failed, the momentum would keep on rolling the 49ers way. It was him MO to go for it all year, doesn't mean you have to do it every time. No Lion would have gone back to the sidelines if they went up 27-10 thinking WTF did we kick a FG for?
I'm guess I am dug in on this one, no one will convince me otherwise. It was a mind boggling decision and I said that in real time before they snapped the ball on that 4th down. It was a chance to let the other team back in it and gain momentum, the best team on paper in the NFL. He had them down, nearly out, and let em up with an egotistical decision. "This is who we are, and we will do what we always do".
Did anyone watch the Luke Willson video I linked? I thought it was pure gold.
4XPIPS wrote:I don't disagree with you one bit, and yes hindsight is always 20/20 after the fact and there were some decisions in the game that Campbell made that he may live to regret. The decision to not kick makeable FGs and force a three score game was a fail on his approach, and ultimately may have been the deciding factor in this game. However, the overall body of work on how the game was called IMO was enough for the Lions to win the game and yet it wasn't because of the aforementioned plays that bounced in favor of the whiners. The Lions were in a lot of close games all season, and there were times the "aggressive going on 4th down" paid off and ultimately got them to where they were. Again, just my opinion I was pleased to see a coach go for it all and watch his players play hard for him. Did it work out, no? But at the end of the day they were good enough to be the whiners and they came up short, and maybe in Campbell's young coaching career he can learn from this. They have a lot of young rookies who are already big contributors, should be a top tier team for sometime.
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