4XPIPS wrote:Think I am making this up?
Your comment"
Are you sure that is what the Muslim told you about Jesus?
My co worker as you objectify as "the Muslim" is a Muslim, and I can't honestly say if he represents entire religious faction nor does claim he does. In his own words Isa you so put it is considered a prophet, but most Muslims(and I quote from his perspective) do not view Jesus as divine.
Now I have no place to speak of Islam as I am not Muslim or have much experience with Islam.
Next your reference Wikipedia of all places as a source. Here is a fact Wikipedia is not deemed a reliable source by most universities, so I recommend tread lightly.
Going back to the ad it delivers numerous amounts of perspectives. It's rare to have one religious belief in conjunction with another. Again it can viewed many ways, and honestly I should probably see it as a beautiful thing to see one religion accepting of another religion.
Going to the hegetsus.com, the creators of this ad, and going to their about us page is what they make two interesting statements
their Agenda
"Our agenda at He Gets Us is to move beyond the mess of our current cultural moment to a place where all of us are invited to rediscover the love story of Jesus – Christians, non-Christians, and everybody in between. All of us. Read more about it"
Their POV on LGBTQ+
"These are probably the most common questions we receive. And we understand why. Many of those who represent Jesus have made people in the LGBTQ+ community feel judged and excluded. And others in the Jesus community have simply ignored their stories and lived experiences.
So let us be clear in our opinion. Jesus loves gay people and Jesus loves trans people. The LGBTQ+ community, like all people, is invited to explore the story of Jesus and consider his example of unconditional love, grace, and forgiveness of others. No matter who you are, YOU are invited to explore the story of Jesus and consider what it means for your life."
Quite the stance I shall say.
I don't think you are making anything up. I feel it is odd that a Muslim would state Jesus/Isa is not divine. I know they do not believe he is the son of God. That is clear. He is a very big deal in Islam. He is from a virgin birth which is in itself pretty amazing. I did not know that Islam still believed in the virgin birth, but apparently they do. I don't know how they reconcile God willing Isa/Jesus into existence by his power with a virgin birth while also claiming he is not divine. Islam also believes it is Isa who will come on the day of judgment. That is a pretty important position in a religion.
I gave you the Wikipedia entry as a decent starting point for research, but it certainly isn't the end all, be all. I would not consider it as such. I generally post Wikipedia because it gives an overview from which an interested party can start research. I usually vet the Wikipedia entry for a general overview of the information. There are a ton of places for good information. Online translated Quran and such. But most people don't want to read that many sites to acquire a summary of the information.
I learned of Isa from a Muslim co-worker who is a Shia. He gave me a great education on Islam, different factions in the Middle East, the Iraq War from the Iraqi perspective, and a bunch of quality information on Islam as he was an Upper Middle Class Iraqi Shia with a wide knowledge of Middle East history, Islam, Shia-Sunni conflict, and a variety of other subjects I found interesting.
The reality is I know so much at this point about so many topics that I mostly go to Wiki because it would be impossible for me to list every source of information I used to acquire the knowledge I have. No singular source has all that information. I spent a few years talking with an Iraqi Shia co-worker. I added to that by reading the Online English-translated Quran and a variety of Islam related sources you can find all over the internet. Even other Muslims are often shocked by my depth of knowledge as Muslims are much like Christians and don't deeply study their own religion to learn about it. They follow it as a matter of cultural teaching like most Christians celebrate Christmas because it just something they have been taught to do as part of their culture and family traditions.
I don't personally mind Christian ads. I'm not an atheist or an agnostic or part of any religion as I don't think we really have the capacity to be concerned with that aspect of life as it isn't important to our existence and is beyond our ability to control. I tend to be more aligned with an observational, evidence-based worldview which implies morality is fluid and should be actively engaged. I'm less interested in the base philosophy followed like Christianity and Islam and more concerned with what aspects of the philosophy are being pushed. In the ads I saw, they generally seemed to push the be tolerant, helpful of others, and positive aspects of Christianity.
I remember being a more liberal person when younger and believing religion was bad, but as time went on and I've seen every human philosophy from religious ones to non-religious philosophies like Communism, Socialism, and Democracy can be used for evil purpose. It became more about how a philosophy is being used rather than the base philosophy which almost always has positive and negative aspects. I very much look at these types of things from that perspective. What is this ad promoting? Seemed to be promoting the good aspects.
So no bother with those ads.