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Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Agent 86 » Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:16 pm

https://www.tsn.ca/nfl/seattle-seahawks-release-safeties-jamal-adams-and-quandre-diggs-and-tight-end-will-dissly-1.2085074

Early look is about $34.5 million in cap savings (with Adams being a POST June 1 cut), no doubt intended to go to some of the in house UFA's we have.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Agent 86 » Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:18 pm

Potential cap casualties

S Jamal Adams
Age during 2024 season: 29
Contract years remaining: Two
2024 cap hit: $26.9 million (10.8 percent of projected cap)
Savings if released or traded (pre-June 1): $6.1 million
Savings if released (post-June 1): $16.5 million

Seattle is $4.6 million over the cap, and Adams is scheduled to have the highest cap among NFL safeties next season. With his injury history, lack of sack production and the presence of Pro Bowl safety Julian Love, Adams tops the list of potential cap casualties. When healthy, Adams has been a very good player, but he hasn’t had a sack since signing that record-setting contract in August 2021, and he’s ended three of his four seasons in Seattle on injured reserve. Eating $20.8 million in dead money is a tough pill to swallow, but Seattle might feel more comfortable parting ways knowing it has an in-house replacement.


S Quandre Diggs
Age during 2024 season: 31
Contract years remaining: One
2024 cap hit: $21.2 million (8.6 percent of projected cap)
Savings if released or traded: $11 million

Seattle does not have an immediate replacement for Diggs, whose coverage numbers were better than Love’s on a per-play basis (Love had more PBUs and interceptions but was targeted more often and gave up triple the number of touchdowns). Diggs, a co-captain on defense, also finished third among defensive backs in stops on third and fourth down.

That said, he’s set to have the third-highest cap hit among safeties next season — in part because his deal was restructured in the summer — meaning he has a salary Schneider could shed. Releasing Diggs and Adams would put Seattle in a tough position at a spot the team values.

Also, Seattle hasn’t drafted a starting-caliber safety since Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor in 2010. They have done some decent bargain shopping over the years with Love, Bradley McDougald and Ryan Neal, but if Schneider looks to the draft to replace his high-priced veterans, The Athletic’s Dane Brugler has five second-round safeties in his latest mock: Minnesota’s Tyler Nubin, Washington State’s Jaden Hicks, Georgia’s Javon Bullard, USC’s Calen Bullock and Miami’s Kameron Kinchens. Seattle doesn’t have a second-round pick, but with a deep group on Day 2, it could have good options in Round 3.



TE Will Dissly
Age during 2024 season: 28
Contract years remaining: One
2024 cap hit: $10.1 million (4.1 percent of projected cap)
Savings if released or traded: $7 million

After two injury-shortened seasons to start his career, Dissly has played at least 15 games in each of the last four years. Of his four fully healthy seasons, 2023 was his least productive. He caught 17 of 22 targets for 172 yards and one touchdown, which didn’t come until Week 18. Dissly’s 2024 cap hit ranks 12th among tight ends, and his production is unlikely to match that salary unless he makes a return as TE1 on the depth chart.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:43 pm

They might re-sign Dissly at a lower Cap hit, but the writing was on the wall for the Safety position.
As it stands today we don’t have any TEs on the roster and only a couple of Safeties in Julian Love and Ty Okada.

At this point it suggests trading down in the draft to fill more holes.

Edit: we also have Jerrick Reed at S.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby jshawaii22 » Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:03 pm

Sad about Dissley, as other Husky TE's seem to be doing real well in the NFL, but it is what it is with injuries the leading cause.
Nothing unexpected so far with Adams and Diggs.
New Coach and regime usually means a lot of new players.. (see Carroll, Pete) so we shouldn't be surprised if Bobby Wags and others aren't resigned or released. The defense really sucked last year and needs a reboot. Get ready for a 4-13 next year or similar while the retool starts.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby 4XPIPS » Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:12 pm

Very happy with this move, sort of seems ironic as we flush out one of our worst trades ever for the Hawks with Jamal Adams, but pales in comparison to the Russell Wilson saga. If we never pulled off the Russ trade that became an absolute disaster for the Broncos this could go down as one of the worst franchise moving trades in recent history. Well maybe the Mitch Trubisky trade was pretty bad, but at least he started a few years for the Bears.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby RiverDog » Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:49 pm

I'm mildly surprised that they released Dissly as he's one of the best blocking tight ends in the game, but he only caught 17 passes. I'm not surprised that they released Diggs as he had a horrible season. But I would have been shocked had the not released Adams. The trade coupled with the resigning has to go down as the worst personnel move of the Pete Carroll era.

I, too, am pleased with the moves. But it does open up some needs as we're now going to be in the market for a safety and a tight end. I wouldn't mind if we resigned Dissly to a more team friendly contract.

The cuts open up the door for us to go after Patrick Queen, who IMO would be a great addition to our defense.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby jshawaii22 » Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:09 pm

... and Diggs made the Pro Bowl, which shows us just how much Seahawk games are really watched.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Rambo2014 » Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:46 pm

Man, your team is a riot!!!!

Dump the best coach you ever had

Dump like 30 or 40 coaches and assistants

Replace dumped with no name practically out of Pop Warner

Talk about getting RW back

Yay Yee fun time kicking sand in your face by some beefy Rams
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Aseahawkfan » Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:44 pm

Finally, Adams is gone. Diggs isn't worth 18 mil a year. Dissly only one I wasn't thinking about.

Gotta free up cap space and pick up some quality free agents and re-sign Williams so that 2nd round pick isn't wasted.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby RiverDog » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:35 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:Finally, Adams is gone. Diggs isn't worth 18 mil a year. Dissly only one I wasn't thinking about.

Gotta free up cap space and pick up some quality free agents and re-sign Williams so that 2nd round pick isn't wasted.


Diggs played horribly last season. If it wasn't for that fat contract we signed him to, he would have been benched. PFF ranked 95 safeties last season. Diggs was ranked #87, Adams #88. At least in this case, PFF's ranking meets the eye test.

On the other hand, Julian Love was ranked #23, which considering there's 2 safeties on the field, is a very respectable ranking, and the eye test agreed again as Love had some outstanding efforts late in the season.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Aseahawkfan » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:55 pm

RiverDog wrote:Diggs played horribly last season. If it wasn't for that fat contract we signed him to, he would have been benched. PFF ranked 95 safeties last season. Diggs was ranked #87, Adams #88. At least in this case, PFF's ranking meets the eye test.

On the other hand, Julian Love was ranked #23, which considering there's 2 safeties on the field, is a very respectable ranking, and the eye test agreed again as Love had some outstanding efforts late in the season.


We were all waiting for the terrible Jamal Adams trade to finally end. I was to tired of waiting for this guy to get healthy and turn it around. It wasn't ever going to happen.

Diggs fell off hard for some reason after his injury. Sometimes you don't make it back from injury all the way.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby RiverDog » Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:44 pm

RiverDog wrote:Diggs played horribly last season. If it wasn't for that fat contract we signed him to, he would have been benched. PFF ranked 95 safeties last season. Diggs was ranked #87, Adams #88. At least in this case, PFF's ranking meets the eye test.

On the other hand, Julian Love was ranked #23, which considering there's 2 safeties on the field, is a very respectable ranking, and the eye test agreed again as Love had some outstanding efforts late in the season.


Aseahawkfan wrote:We were all waiting for the terrible Jamal Adams trade to finally end. I was to tired of waiting for this guy to get healthy and turn it around. It wasn't ever going to happen.

Diggs fell off hard for some reason after his injury. Sometimes you don't make it back from injury all the way.


Yeah, we've finally closed the book on the Adams trade, one of if not the worst trade in franchise history. Even when he was healthy, Adams was a liability in most situations. In order for him to be used properly, the defense had to give up something. Plus, the guy revealed himself to be a real A-hole, berating medical personnel not once, but twice, and crawling into the gutter by insulting a reporter's wife. I'm glad that someone finally gave this team an enema and purged that POS off our team. Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya!

I don't know how to explain Diggs' drop-off. His injury was at the end of the 2021 season, and he played relatively well in 2022, so we can't use the injury excuse for all of his problems. It was this season where the guy turned to crap. Maybe since our front 7 regressed like it did, that Diggs was exposed more than he was in the past, forced to make more tackles.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Aseahawkfan » Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:33 pm

For me the LBs are a high priority. Even if you have a good d-line, bad LBs unable to read and tackle make for some terrible defense. I really want a top flight LB this draft.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby 4XPIPS » Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:37 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:For me the LBs are a high priority. Even if you have a good d-line, bad LBs unable to read and tackle make for some terrible defense. I really want a top flight LB this draft.



Personally I think all of our LBS are below average, and aren't worth keeping. I love Bobby, but father time has caught up with him and he will definitely not be re-signed. It's time to find fresh new pieces in our LB core via draft&FA.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Agent 86 » Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:00 pm

Well interesting according to Field Gulls, Adams will be a PRE June 1st cut.

UPDATE: The game has changed a bit here. The Seahawks will release Diggs, Adams, and Will Dissly immediately. Adams getting cut pre-June 1 means the Seahawks save only $6 million off of Adams and incur $20.8 million in dead money for 2024.

So they are going to swallow the entire dead cap hit of $20.8 million and save just $6 million on the Adams release this year. So the total cap savings for 2024 between the 3 releases is $24 million(ish) and a dead cap hit of $20.8 million. But for 2025, there is no more dead cap hit as I understand it for releasing Adams, who had 2 years left on his deal. Both Diggs and Dissly only had 1 year left.


Edit - The total dead cap hit of the 3 players released today for 2024 will be $34.2 million.....Yikes! :lol:
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:40 pm

And they will probably cut Mone, too so that gives them another $5M in Cap savings.
Next years Cap looks tight, too so maybe taking the full hit this year for Adams is a good move.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Agent 86 » Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:18 am

Nice little article that explains in detail yesterday's releases with cap implications in regards to space it opened up and the dead cap money hit for 2024. Explains in detail about all 3 contracts and their history.

https://overthecap.com/seahawks-salary-cap-update-following-three-releases
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby NorthHawk » Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:52 am

Agent 86 wrote:Nice little article that explains in detail yesterday's releases with cap implications in regards to space it opened up and the dead cap money hit for 2024. Explains in detail about all 3 contracts and their history.

https://overthecap.com/seahawks-salary-cap-update-following-three-releases


The Dissly contract seems odd in that we rarely threw to the TE's in Pete's Offense, so maybe the thinking was Dissly could help out with the young OTs who had expected to struggle at times.

Again, Mone should be the next cut and that would take us to somewhere around $40M in this years Cap space.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby NorthHawk » Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:26 pm

As expected, Brian Mone has been cut freeing up more than $5M in Cap space.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Old but Slow » Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:31 am

They could resign Dissly for a more reasonable number, as a good blocking TE who will not likely get a lot of attention in free agency. Great PR and a great attitude.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby RiverDog » Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:09 am

Old but Slow wrote:They could resign Dissly for a more reasonable number, as a good blocking TE who will not likely get a lot of attention in free agency. Great PR and a great attitude.


Agreed. Dissly's one of my favorites, too, best all around tight end we've had since Zach Miller. PFF had Dissly ranked 15th overall at a highly competitive position with players like Kelce, Kittle, Andrews, et al. He's ranked #1 in pass blocking, #3 in run blocking. We have zero depth at the OT position with a RT that's injury prone, so it's essential that we have a good blocking tight end. It's not his fault that our offense didn't throw more to our tight ends.

But he was overpaid. He must have had a heck of an agent.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby NorthHawk » Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:26 am

He had Pete in his corner who was getting to sentimental about players and nobody overlooking his actions he had to report to.
Dissly could fit depending on what the new Offense is going to look like. If it's going to be more pass oriented then he might not fit as well as Fant might.
It will be interesting to see how many TEs are on the open market this off season. We might draft one if someone they think is good falls to us and later round prospects might be a short term answer, but we do need bodies there.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby MackStrongIsMyHero » Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:28 pm

Dissly to the Chargers.

Brooks to the Dolphins.

Fant resigned for two more years.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby jshawaii22 » Mon Mar 11, 2024 10:01 pm

Damian Lewis left for Carolina. Looks like we need a pair of new LB's. Bobby came back to help Pete, so not surprising he's gone.
Anyone know if we're blowing off the 3-4 and going back to something more like a 4-3? We just cut Mone, who was listed as a nose tackle...

Looks we are in 'rebuild mode' -- so lets go all the way and trade DK to at least try to move in the draft to get whichever QB the team decides on.
I doubt that would be #1, 2 or 3, but lots of teams ahead of us have already indicated their pick could be up for auction.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby RiverDog » Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:41 am

jshawaii22 wrote:Damian Lewis left for Carolina. Looks like we need a pair of new LB's. Bobby came back to help Pete, so not surprising he's gone.
Anyone know if we're blowing off the 3-4 and going back to something more like a 4-3? We just cut Mone, who was listed as a nose tackle...

Looks we are in 'rebuild mode' -- so lets go all the way and trade DK to at least try to move in the draft to get whichever QB the team decides on.
I doubt that would be #1, 2 or 3, but lots of teams ahead of us have already indicated their pick could be up for auction.


Macdonald employed a modified 4-3 in Baltimore. One of the things that he was known for was catering his defenses to the skill of the players he had, which is likely one of the reasons why he was popular with his players:

Macdonald unlocked the potential of young Michigan pass rushers Aidan Hutchinson and David Ojabo by letting them do what they do best. Hutchinson went from a three-point stance to more of a stand-up linebacker. Ojabo was allowed to fly off the edge and get after quarterbacks.

Macdonald adjusts his defense to cater to his players, and that's his vision for the Ravens defense in 2022, which ranked last in the league in passing yards allowed per game.


https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/wh ... ns-defense

I'd love to see us trade Metcalf if we could get somewhere close to what the Chiefs got for Tyreek Hill, ie 5 draft picks including a 1st and a 2nd. It certainly didn't hurt the Chiefs to lose their top WR.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:17 am

If we traded DK, we would have a dead cap hit of $36M this year. Considering the dead cap hits for Adams and Diggs, it would be a big burden to carry that into next year.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby jshawaii22 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:11 am

according to Over the cap, we have the 5th most 'dead cap' already, but nothing compared to Denver and what happened with Russell. If trading DK gets us up in the draft to get the 4th or 5th QB, I say go ahead. That's my #1 goal this year and if we blow it and wait until next year we are probably screwed. Not saying that their is any guarantee on the #4 or #5 QB being great, but Geno is not a long-term solution.
I note we didn't rush into the back-up QB derby yesterday, which to me indicated the team is moving toward drafting a QB.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Uppercut » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:16 am

This is turning into a stomach-churner! It seems like the Hawks JS have no clue. Hope I am wrong but I do not have expectations for 2024, maybe 8-9 0r 7-10.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby MackStrongIsMyHero » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:04 pm

Patrick Queen to the Steelers.

Drew Lock to the Giants.

Kind of glad there's been no big FA signings on Schneider's part, but there's a lot of roster spots that need to be addressed.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:28 pm

It's a rebuild in the vision of our new coaching staff. It will take a couple of years.
They should take a QB only if their desired player is there at 16. If not, try to trade down and collect a bunch of picks that fit what the coaches on both sides want to do.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Agent 86 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:27 pm

Seahawks UFA's and released players that are gone so far. Only Williams and Fant re-signed, I don't see anyone else left in house that they would re-sign except maybe Phil Haynes. And on the Restricted side of things, they have Taylor, Curhan, Rhattigan, and Jackson to tender.

Lock - Giants
Dallas - Arizona (thank you, this guy bugged the crap out of me, no particular reason, just didn't particularly like him)
Parkinson - Rams
Dissly - Chargers
Lewis - Panthers
Brooks - Dolphins
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Old but Slow » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:08 pm

There is no way that the team can be rebuilt in time to make this a productive season. There will be weaknesses at a few positions as they will be filled with castoffs or practice squad guys, because they do not have a great draft position and not much cap space. Another year with another draft and a new cap and we might see something.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby NorthHawk » Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:50 am

I think that's the expectations and maybe one of the plans whereby they look to next year with a higher draft pick to get a QB for the future.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby RiverDog » Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:39 am

Agent 86 wrote:Seahawks UFA's and released players that are gone so far. Only Williams and Fant re-signed, I don't see anyone else left in house that they would re-sign except maybe Phil Haynes. And on the Restricted side of things, they have Taylor, Curhan, Rhattigan, and Jackson to tender.


I'm not at all alarmed that they're letting so many players walk. A new broom sweeps clean. I would have preferred that they resigned Dissly, but they just signed a very good blocking tight end in Pharaoh Brown so he should be a good compliment to Fant.

Of those RFA's mentioned above, the only one I would tender would be Jackson.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Agent 86 » Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:28 pm

Agent 86 wrote:Seahawks UFA's and released players that are gone so far. Only Williams and Fant re-signed, I don't see anyone else left in house that they would re-sign except maybe Phil Haynes. And on the Restricted side of things, they have Taylor, Curhan, Rhattigan, and Jackson to tender.


RiverDog wrote:I'm not at all alarmed that they're letting so many players walk. A new broom sweeps clean. I would have preferred that they resigned Dissly, but they just signed a very good blocking tight end in Pharaoh Brown so he should be a good compliment to Fant.

Of those RFA's mentioned above, the only one I would tender would be Jackson.


Well just saw some news from the Seahawks:

- they tendered Mike Jackson at the Original Round tender (5th round)
- they tendered Jon Rhattigan at First Right Of Refusal tender (meaning if they decline to match any offer, they receive no compensation)
- they have reportedly struck an extension deal with Darrell Taylor, so he is apparently signed and they won't have to tender him an offer
- they have signed safety Rayshawn Jenkins, formerly of the Jags and was in for a visit a couple days ago
- they have signed OT George Fant, who we are all familiar with

Edit - they did not tender Jake Curhan, so he is now a free agent
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby NorthHawk » Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:23 am

I suppose Fant would be an upgrade from Curran as a backup/swing tackle since he played both OT spots in the past. I don't see him as a long term starter, though.
The signing of Jenkins suggests that one of the two starting Safeties from last year won't be back even though JS said the door isn't closed for either.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Agent 86 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:04 pm

Taylor received a 1 year deal for $3.136 million. Includes a $20K signing bonus and $3.116 in non guaranteed money, and another $350K available in bonuses tied to sacks, so a very low risk signing. Can cut him at any point and not suffer.

As it stands now, this is just another brutal 2nd round pick that the PC/JS combo whiffed on, he has not lived up to the billing of a 2nd rounder. Hoping a new regime can fix what's wrong with him.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby RiverDog » Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:42 pm

Agent 86 wrote:Taylor received a 1 year deal for $3.136 million. Includes a $20K signing bonus and $3.116 in non guaranteed money, and another $350K available in bonuses tied to sacks, so a very low risk signing. Can cut him at any point and not suffer.

As it stands now, this is just another brutal 2nd round pick that the PC/JS combo whiffed on, he has not lived up to the billing of a 2nd rounder. Hoping a new regime can fix what's wrong with him.


Boy, we sure seem to have struck out on a lot of 1st and 2nd round draft picks. I wonder where we stand relative to the other teams in the league with regard to how our draft picks perform. I'm sure someone somewhere has crunched the numbers.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby NorthHawk » Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:21 pm

I think that was when they were still drafting for 1 or 2 players expecting to take them to the SB. Character and availability didn't seem to be a concern when they reached for the stars.
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Re: Seahawks releasing Adams, Diggs, Dissly

Postby Agent 86 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:03 pm

Seahawks sign UFA LB Tyrel Dodson.

This is some news we all have been waiting for. He was the 13th rated LB in free agency on NFL.com, and was thought of as a player who could really break out this year. He has some past warts though, as explained in the 2nd link.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/seahawks-tyrel-dodson-finds-new-home-in-seattle/

https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1773735/seattle-seahawks-is-tyrel-dodson-free-agency-lb-answer/
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