Leonard Williams got Paid

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Leonard Williams got Paid

Postby 4XPIPS » Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:36 pm

Looks like that 2nd round pick turned into a solid starter.
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Re: Leonard Williams got Paid

Postby Aseahawkfan » Mon Mar 11, 2024 6:45 pm

21 million a year? I'd rather have the 2nd round pick. Oh well, when you put yourself in this situation, the player has all the leverage. I hope to the football gods these kinds of trades are done under John Schneider on his own. Williams was I guess a good player on a bad defense, but 21 million a year with 48 million guaranteed? I don't think so.
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Re: Leonard Williams got Paid

Postby jshawaii22 » Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:01 pm

I'm a little surprised they he'd stay. I guess we overpaid him, but most of the players that signed today seemed to be overpaid a little. IMHO.

I thought he was a "Pete" signing, giving up a second for 10 games with no guarantee, but maybe not.
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Re: Leonard Williams got Paid

Postby NorthHawk » Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:11 pm

He played pretty well and it’s only 3 years.
Re-signed Fant, too. 2 years $21M total.
Dissly went to the Chargers and Brooks is gone to the Dolphins and Lewis to the Panthers.
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Re: Leonard Williams got Paid

Postby Old but Slow » Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:54 pm

Prices are high right now and I think it is partly due to the unexpected increase in the cap. The amounts of money for OG is crazy.
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Re: Leonard Williams got Paid

Postby RiverDog » Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:28 am

I don't think that there was any way that we weren't going to resign Williams. He had a bargaining advantage in that JS would have egg on his face for spending a 2nd round pick on what would have been an expensive one-year rental.

Williams was one of the few players in our front 7 that was worth keeping. Glad he's on board.
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Re: Leonard Williams got Paid

Postby Aseahawkfan » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:55 am

Yeah. I looked at this stats. He had a good year for us. Given what I'm seeing paid out there for D-line, I guess this is now is about market value.
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Re: Leonard Williams got Paid

Postby Oly » Tue Mar 12, 2024 6:15 am

He got paid, but it doesn't seem out of line with the DT market for his caliber of player. Is it a bit higher than I'd like? Yeah. I was hoping for under $20M/year, but I wasn't expecting that. I thought he'd get at least $20M on the market.

When I think of the difference between Williams and the next tier of DTs, I see some meaningful difference in how that shapes the defense. That $5M/year extra for Williams will be noticeable on the field as I think he's one of the 15 best pocket-collapsing DTs out there. But the difference between what Brooks brings at $10M/year at LB and what a $5M/year LB brings isn't going to change games as much. I think JS and Macdonald saw that the value of the DT position is so high that if you can get a top 15 DT for market rates, you go for it and go cheaper outside the trenches.
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Re: Leonard Williams got Paid

Postby NorthHawk » Tue Mar 12, 2024 7:13 am

After giving up a 2nd round draft choice they had to buck up to some degree. It could have been a lot more and in 3 years he will be 33 so he's at a good age.
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Re: Leonard Williams got Paid

Postby curmudgeon » Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:55 am

Real wages are up. Bidenomics works!!…….
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Re: Leonard Williams got Paid

Postby mykc14 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:43 am

Aseahawkfan wrote:Yeah. I looked at this stats. He had a good year for us. Given what I'm seeing paid out there for D-line, I guess this is now is about market value.


Exactly. He had the the third or fourth most pressures amongst interior OL and was solid vs. the run. The top guys are getting over 30 mil/year I think Williams at 21 mil/year is a good investment.
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Re: Leonard Williams got Paid

Postby RiverDog » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:35 am

Just a FYI. PFF had Williams ranked at #22 for defensive tackles (they call them 'interior defenders') amongst 132 players that had enough snaps to qualify. Considering that there are usually 2 interior defenders per team, that's a very respectable ranking and by far our highest ranked DL.
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