I-5 wrote:This is one of the more naive things I've read. Using this example, the Green River Killer worked at a truck painting company for decades, brought pies to his church socials, and I'm sure he was thought of very highly by those acquaintances and even friends who thought they knew him well. He's still the Green River Killer. In Kavanaugh's example, the part that was left out above is that we're not talking about a middle management job - it's the highest court in the land with a lifetime appointment whose discretion and judgement affects hundreds of thousands of people. If Graham hadn't bared his fangs and come to his rescue, I'm not sure his nomination would have survived.
I have a little different take on what changed undecided Senators and public opinion as opposed to Graham
"baring his fangs". IMO it was Kavanaugh's passionate, emotionally charged emphatic denial, made under oath and bringing him nearly to tears, that made him more believable than his accuser and changed the course of the nomination, very similar to Clarence Thomas'
"high tech lynching" remark he made in his defense during his hearing.
Say what you want about Kavanaugh, but that was a very powerful, emotional denial, a reaction that many of us would have experienced had we been accused of something we didn't do and caused a lot of people to identify with his predicament.
And as long as we're talking about evidence, here's some of the problems with Ms. Ford's story:
Ford still can’t recall basic details of what she says was the most traumatic event in her life. Not where the “assault” took place — she’s not sure whose house it was, or even what street it was on. Nor when — she’s not even sure of the year, let alone the day and month.
Ford’s not certain how old she was or what grade she was in when she says an older student violently molested her. (But she doesn’t plead inebriation: She described having just “one beer” at the party.)
Ford concedes she told no one what happened to her at the time, not even her best friend or mother. That means she can rely on no contemporaneous witness to corroborate her story.
Worse, the four other people she identified as attending the party, including Kavanaugh, all deny knowledge of the gathering in question, including Leland Ingham Keyser, who she calls a “lifelong friend.”
The other two potential witnesses — Mark Judge and Patrick “P.J.” Smyth — also deny any recollection of attending such a party. The committee took their sworn statements “under penalty of perjury.”
Her own immediate family doesn’t appear to be backing her up, either. Her mother, father and two siblings are all conspicuously absent from a letter of support released by a dozen relatives, mostly on her husband’s side of the family. Ford tried to reach out to old friends from high school and college to jog her memory. They couldn’t help her.
Ford contends that notes her therapist took in 2012 corroborate her account. But they don’t mention Kavanaugh....Ford told her there were “four boys” in the bedroom, not two as she now says. The notes also indicate Ford said she was in her “late teens” when she was assaulted. But Ford now says she may have been only 15.
Ford told The Washington Post she was upset when Trump won in 2016, because Kavanaugh was mentioned as a Supreme Court pick. But Kavanaugh wasn’t added to Trump’s list of possibles until November 2017, a full year later.https://nypost.com/2018/09/25/eight-big ... rds-story/In summary, Ms. Ford can't remember whose house it was or what street the house was on, can't remember within 2 years of how old she was, can't remember whether there were 2 or 4 others in the room, can't find any contemporary witnesses to back her up, including immediate family and people she describes as close friends, admits having been drinking (just one beer? Yea, right!), is untruthful in her more recent statement about Kavanaugh's possible SCOTUS nomination, yet you choose to believe her vs. multiple others that claim it didn't happen?
And once again, this alleged event occurred 37 years ago, and they were teenagers at the time.
Ms. Ford is a registered Democrat and was active in fund raising during the 2016 campaign, marching in anti Trump rallies. That's pretty good evidence to the possibility that she was politically motivated. She had an opportunity to file her complaint when Kavanaugh was nominated as a US Circuit Court judge, not exactly a
middle management job, back in 2006 when the Senate held a confirmation hearing. But it was crickets.
I wouldn't have replied had it been Hawktalk that made the comment as I know how he feels and there's no sense debating him as he literally goes bonkers anytime Kavanaugh's name is mentioned. But I thought that you might be little more rational and objective about the issue, so when I saw you start calling others naive, I had to respond. Pot calling the kettle black.