Hawktawk wrote:i never said that about you, that Biden would do the same thing. No modern president in my lifetime has ever acted remotely like trump as president and certainly as a defeated incumbent and none ever will. Its the least I could expect of the worst most mentally ill president in history. Even Nixon had the grace to resign rather than put the country though this. And there's a raging out of control pandemic and not only is he not conceding , hes not working at his job at all. He's just tweeting baseless conspiracy theories in all CAPs, pissing off and riling up his sickening disgusting base of trumpanzees trying to get them to take to the streets..
My point regarding russia is it was very real and what was known almost immediately through reporting made it clear they were up to their eyeballs colluding with Russia.Trump called it fake news but the mueller report proved it was all true and that the deceptive practices of this administration including encrypted communications Mueller could not get permission to open shows there's an iceberg under the tip of what Mueller uncovered. I couldn't stand Hillary and voted for Gary Johanson but the instant I realized our greatest geopolitical foe led by a former KGB agent who pushed Trump I wished she had won. It could not possibly have been worse than this worst 4 years ever by a president.
as i've said the 25th amendment is toilet paper if this guy gets to sit here with the nuclear football and have the power to fire military people , intelligence people etc and act crazy for 70 days in this dangerous world. Get him out of there.
Do you really think we don't have people in the intelligence community who didn't already see any Trump communication prior to Mueller investigating? We have a CIA that engages in foreign operations so varied and vast that we have controlled governments from afar using illegal means, but somehow the C.I.A. and our various intelligence organizations were beaten by Trump? They couldn't hack his encryption? That's really what you believe given the vast amount of documentation on U.S. intelligence not waiting for an ok to check things and act on them? You think Trump employs better computer people than our government?
The Iran Contra operations? The black budgets funded by drug running? The Bay of Pigs? Installing Saddam Hussein? Backing the Afghans against the Russians with weapons support? The Patriot Act allowing monitoring of all our calls and such? The list could go on and on. But somehow, Donald Trump, a former reality TV star with a cult of personality, beat all of our C.I.A., F.B.I. , D.I.A., N.S.A., Homeland Security, and the like with his encryption to collude with Russia? This is what you think is true?
Wow. You do not have much faith in this country or understanding of our intelligence community's capabilities. I'm sorry. I have near absolute trust in our intelligence community. If Trump were a real threat he wouldn't even have made it into office and would likely be in jail or worse. Our intelligence community is one of the best in the world if not the best. We employ technology other nations only dream about. Some asinine, narcissistic reality TV star doesn't employ better computer people and intelligence than American intelligence agencies. If they had more to go on than the Steele dossier, they would have acted.
Our intelligence agencies have already seen the following:
1. Any contact with Russia and Trump.
2. Any attempts at encrypted messaging.
3. Any attempts to release intelligence to a foreign power that isn't allowed.
4. His entire financial history.
5. They've already know what Trump will do before Trump does it.
You don't trust American intelligence agencies, so be it. I've read on those ruthless, methodical, and efficient people. They aren't perfect, but no one like Trump is going to beat them.