Hang in there, guy! We're one month from having our hemorrhoid removed.
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I-5 wrote: think you said the same thing about Nov 3, then Dec 14....
I didn't say hang in there for one more month, nor did I mention anything about hemorrhoids.
Hang in there, guy! We're one month from having our hemorrhoid removed.
I-5 wrote: think you said the same thing about Nov 3, then Dec 14....
I-5 wrote:Hang in there, guy! We're one month from having our hemorrhoid removed.
I think you said the same thing about Nov 3, then Dec 14....
RiverDog wrote:I don't think it's that simple. Women aside, Trump doesn't give me the impression that he 'likes' anyone unless that someone has something to offer him. I still believe there is some other underlying motivation besides just a personal liking of the area or its people. And FYI, I'm fully aware that a lot of American companies do business with Russia as they do in scores of other countries around the globe. My former employer has production facilities in both Russia and China.
I, too, was shocked that so many people failed to recognize Trump's multiple failings, but I do think that the Democrats shot themselves in the foot by either allowing them to be painted or outright endorsing socialistic policies/liberal thought, the pack the court plan that Biden didn't denounce, the defund the police and cancel culture movements associated with liberals, their energy policy, the green new deal, free college, etc. America simply doesn't change as fast as some people want it to. Progressives within the party are hell bent for leather, shoot for the moon types, and Biden didn't distance himself from them near enough.
There's a lot of countries, organizations, and individuals with blood on their hands, the Chinese being one, particularly because the virus got its genesis in that country. But even if China been more forthcoming and given us more access to information, Trump wouldn't have believed them anyway.
We have to give the Chinese some credit. They were the first to discover the genetic code of the virus and shared their information with various scientists around the world, which is one of the major reasons why we were able to develop a vaccine in the amount of time we did.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Well, until I see something, I just don't see how Putin could have predicted Trump would win the presidency including both Houses of Congress. I see no reason to believe that if Trump could be black-mailed or manipulated, it would be by Putin rather than people in America who are also very powerful and very capable of getting dirt on people to force them to comply. Hey, if Russia pulled off the biggest coup in history by beating the most powerful military and intelligence services in the world to put a puppet into the White House, then kudos to them. They're a lot more powerful than they appear. I guess their ability to predict and manipulate foreign elections far exceeds ours or any nation in history.
I, too, was shocked that so many people failed to recognize Trump's multiple failings, but I do think that the Democrats shot themselves in the foot by either allowing them to be painted or outright endorsing socialistic policies/liberal thought, the pack the court plan that Biden didn't denounce, the defund the police and cancel culture movements associated with liberals, their energy policy, the green new deal, free college, etc. America simply doesn't change as fast as some people want it to. Progressives within the party are hell bent for leather, shoot for the moon types, and Biden didn't distance himself from them near enough.
Aseahawkfan wrote:What can you do. People are pretty insane right now. I know some don't to care to acknowledge the crazy left. I literally talk to people on the left who tell me they think the rioting, looting, and the like is acceptable to them because they believe it is ok for someone to tear everything down if they are "excluded" from the success of the nation.
I'm at the point where I hate talking to people right now. I don't even care what political party at this point. I hear so much nuttiness out of the mouths of Americans right now from the idiot at the top to the people justifying the worst behavior with this looting and anti-cop sentiment to this election fraud nonsense. This is full on crazy land right now. I'm used to some level of crazy, but this is getting under my skin.
There's a lot of countries, organizations, and individuals with blood on their hands, the Chinese being one, particularly because the virus got its genesis in that country. But even if China been more forthcoming and given us more access to information, Trump wouldn't have believed them anyway.
We have to give the Chinese some credit. They were the first to discover the genetic code of the virus and shared their information with various scientists around the world, which is one of the major reasons why we were able to develop a vaccine in the amount of time we did.
Aseahawkfan wrote:The world still suffered because the China under-represented this disease. I'm not sure if you're starting to engage in revisionist history or what not.
I didn't say hang in there for one more month, nor did I mention anything about hemorrhoids.
I-5 wrote:I know you sometimes like to drag out literal semantic references that that are irrelevant to the topic, but you (and a few others) did predict Trump and/or the party would undergo some kind of transition/change/acceptance (again, please don't get semantic on me again, which I know you want to), post Nov 3 election...and again, you called out Dec 14 is a date that would signal the end of whatever shenanigans...and now you're saying hang in there until inauguration. Do you really think Trump will stop trying to start a fire if he thinks he can save his own hide? He still has sway over the party, by the way they're cowering underneath him. I can't predict what happens leading up to inauguration or post inauguration....except to expect more and more dangerous rhetoric. I'm sure if he thought he could pull off Martial Law, he would be instituting it right now. Flynn thinks he can.
RiverDog wrote:I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish in your recent remarks. I wasn't directing my "hang in there" comment to you so I don't know why you've chosen to make such an issue of it. I was directing it to a rather flamboyant poster whom has become a genuine friend of mine and a person with whom I happen to share many of the same thoughts with, and you're using it to make me out to be some sort charlatan by my using "semantic references that are irrelevant to the topic".
There was no need for that first sentence in your post. If you have a point to make, then make it.
Perhaps I am getting a little too thin skinned in my old age or that this shut down is affecting my state of mind more than I realize.
There was no need for that first sentence in your post. If you have a point to make, then make it.
Perhaps I am getting a little too thin skinned in my old age or that this shut down is affecting my state of mind more than I realize.
RiverDog wrote:I haven't been talking to anyone in person. Between this forum, a few social media contacts, and my 82 year old friend whose only connection to the 21st century is email, I haven't spoken to anyone, face-to-face, in the past 2 months and only two people since Labor Day. We really are hunkered down.
Oh, I absolutely agree that China has blood on its hands, more so than any one country. I'm not arguing with you one little bit. But their scientists did identify the genetic code of the coronavirus and shared their discovery with other scientists around the world, which helped expedite the manufacture of a vaccine. It's one of the few things we can credit them for.
I-5 wrote:I know you sometimes like to drag out literal semantic references that that are irrelevant to the topic, but you (and a few others) did predict Trump and/or the party would undergo some kind of transition/change/acceptance (again, please don't get semantic on me again, which I know you want to), post Nov 3 election...and again, you called out Dec 14 is a date that would signal the end of whatever shenanigans...and now you're saying hang in there until inauguration. Do you really think Trump will stop trying to start a fire if he thinks he can save his own hide? He still has sway over the party, by the way they're cowering underneath him. I can't predict what happens leading up to inauguration or post inauguration....except to expect more and more dangerous rhetoric. I'm sure if he thought he could pull off Martial Law, he would be instituting it right now. Flynn thinks he can.
There was no need for that first sentence in your post. If you have a point to make, then make it.
Perhaps I am getting a little too thin skinned in my old age or that this shut down is affecting my state of mind more than I realize.
c_hawkbob wrote:Sorry Riv but I totally understand what he's (I-5) talking about. And it's not just about this current conversation either; a person has to be real careful how the try to make a point in a conversation you're involved in because you do have a tendency to contest the death out of a completely ancillary aspect of what someone says and turn the conversation completely away from the primary point. It's what I've tried to explain before about not having the capacity to argue the minutia in depth anymore so I just don't bother sometimes.
You're the most prolific poster here and arguably the most valuable so don't take this as me trying to put a damper on your posting, I'd miss it greatly if I no longer were able to read what you have to say but if you're going to tell someone "If you have a point to make, then make it", allow them to make it and comment on that point rather than taking the conversation off on a tangent.
RiverDog wrote:I take a lot of pride in my posts. I go to great lengths to perfect them, at times making a dozen or so edits, sometimes just to correct simple grammatical and spelling errors. I'm conscious of the fact that absent tones of voice/facial expressions, that it's easy to for text to be misinterpreted, so I'll review my remarks and perform even more edits. I try my best not to offend anyone by name calling or mockery, which was my motivation for the "hang in there" remark as I was feeling that I might have inadvertently insulted another poster and friend.
Although I appreciate the kind words, it's apparent to me that if it takes two out of of our very small group to highlight what is perceived as flaws in my style, they must be pretty serious and counter productive to a good discussion. I post more often than anyone else, so perhaps part of the problem is that I talk too much. Maybe it's time to take a leave of absence.
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