The Capitol Takeover

[c_hawkbob]

C'mon all you Republican apologists and naysayers telling us "oh nothing is gonna happen", where are you now? We've got the most important, most stunning events of our lifetimes going on right in front of us and y'all are nowhere to be found.

On the positive side it sounds like the Capitol Police are starting to take back the interior of the buildings.

[I-5]

Everyone who made fun of HT and downplayed his warnings....here it is

[c_hawkbob]

This is absolutely banana republic bs and Trump not only asked for it but he had to have set it up to be so easy for these nutjobs to storm the Capitol and somehow has arranged to have the Dept. of homeland security and the National Guard so conspicuously absent.

We need to have a real impeachment tomorrow. DJT needs to be removed from the premises in cuffs.

[Aseahawkfan]

c-bob, you are trying to blame the Republicans, yet it is the Democrats who inspire this level of hate and rebellion. These people are here because they hate the Democratic Party, hate what they stand for, hate their rhetoric, and would rather throw their lot in with Donald Trump against anyone against Donald Trump than let the Democrats take control of the nation even with a divided Republican Party with leadership like McConnel clearly stating that election fraud did not occur.

Why does the Democratic Party inspire such hate and fear towards them? I'm really not sure. We've lived with Democratic leadership before and been fine. Seems pretty crazy.

My friend's sister is at that revolt I guess. Boy, do they hate the Democrats.

[c_hawkbob]

What would be the response if this were being done by BLM protesters? There would have been machine gun fire suppressing this sh!t from the git go.

[c_hawkbob]

c-bob, you are trying to blame the Republicans, yet it is the Democrats who inspire this level of hate and rebellion. These people are here because they hate the Democratic Party, hate what they stand for, hate their rhetoric, and would rather throw their lot in with Donald Trump against anyone against Donald Trump than let the Democrats take control of the nation even with a divided Republican Party with leadership like McConnel clearly stating that election fraud did not occur.

Why does the Democratic Party inspire such hate and fear towards them? I'm really not sure. We've lived with Democratic leadership before and been fine. Seems pretty crazy.

My friend's sister is at that revolt I guess. Boy, do they hate the Democrats.

Your insane Asea, completely full of crap. This domestic terrorism is 100% brought to you by Trump and you know it!

[Aseahawkfan]

What would be the response if this were being done by BLM protesters? There would have been machine gun fire suppressing this sh!t from the git go.

BS, no one uses a machine gun to suppress thing nowadays. Too much bad PR.

Calm down. They'll get this under control and certify the results.

[Aseahawkfan]

Your insane Asea, completely full of crap. This domestic terrorism is 100% brought to you by Trump and you know it!

You're deluded. Trump tapped hate already there. All I hear from these Trump supporters is how much they hate and fear the Democrats. Do you even talk to these people as to why they think like they do? Or do you just write them all off as dumb and go on about your business?

What part of this is not waking people like you up that there is immense hate against the Democratic Party? What part of Trump even getting elected is not cluing you in even now? This hate has been brewing for years and coming out because Trump knew how to tap into it.

Keep being clueless and let this crap keep building.

I've been hearing this tired crap from Libertarians for years. The constant refrain. "Democrats are going to make us socialist. Democrats are going to take our rights away. Democrats have to be stopped. We have to have a revolution like the Founders to retake our nation. Blah, blah, blah."

I was hearing this back during Bush Jr, through Obama, and now into Trump. Here it is. Here is an attack on the government by a bunch of people that hate the Democrats. Not sure how you fix this garbage. Is this peak or just the start? We will see.

[c_hawkbob]

You're like that abusive husband that screams "why do you make me do this" at his wife as he breaks her bones. These radicals, and the republicans that embolden them, are responsible for their own actions.

[Hawktawk]

c-bob, you are trying to blame the Republicans, yet it is the Democrats who inspire this level of hate and rebellion. These people are here because they hate the Democratic Party, hate what they stand for, hate their rhetoric, and would rather throw their lot in with Donald Trump against anyone against Donald Trump than let the Democrats take control of the nation even with a divided Republican Party with leadership like McConnel clearly stating that election fraud did not occur.

Why does the Democratic Party inspire such hate and fear towards them? I'm really not sure. We've lived with Democratic leadership before and been fine. Seems pretty crazy.

My friend's sister is at that revolt I guess. Boy, do they hate the Democrats.

Thats BS and you know it. Nothing remotely like this has happened ever in america including Clinton who was hated, Bush 1 and 2 who were hated, Obama who was double dog hated. Hillary Fing Clinton called DJT at 1 AM day after election and conceded, Gore disputed but conceded, Nixon conceded then resigned as president. John McCain not only conceded very graciously but during the campaign he told his supporters not to bring up Obamas race or question his religious beliefs.

Every duly elected president or presidential candidate in our history has conceded when the results are clear. This is DONALD TRUMP AND HIS IDIOTIC FOLLOWERS PROBLEM.HE AND EVERY SINGLE PERSON SUPPORTING HIM AT THIS POINT ARE UN AMERICAN TRAITORS. THEY LOST PRETTY BAD. GTFO

You are way too smart for this statement. These are seditionists who are delusional, armed and dangerous and Trump was out giving an hr long speech whipping them into a frenzy an hour before this happened. He should be arrested immediately for sedition charges.

This aint the liberals fault bud. MAGA my ass...

[RiverDog]

If Trump doesn't go on national TV now, denounce this takeover, and call on the protesters to peacefully disperse and do his duty to protect the constitution, then he needs to be impeached. If he doesn't come forward, then articles of impeachment need to be introduced tomorrow.

[RiverDog]

These radicals, and the republicans that embolden them, are responsible for their own actions.

Agreed.

[RiverDog]

What would be the response if this were being done by BLM protesters? There would have been machine gun fire suppressing this sh!t from the git go.

I'm calling for the exact same response as what should have happened during the violent BLM protests: Employ the national guard and subdue the violence by any non lethal means deemed necessary..tear gas, pepper spray, concussion grenades, or what ever. I don't know how we got to this situation where violence is allowed to occur with little or no response from the government that are supposed to protect us from this kind of activity.

[RiverDog]

Everyone who made fun of HT and downplayed his warnings....here it is

I haven't seen the missiles flying and bombs dropping yet.

[c_hawkbob]

Trump is speaking now and the first thing he says is how he got robbed in the election. This lying POS needs to go.

[c_hawkbob]

Everyone who made fun of HT and downplayed his warnings....here it is

I haven't seen the missiles flying and bombs dropping yet.

Now you're arguing degrees. HT was right.

[RiverDog]

Trump is speaking now and the first thing he says is how he got robbed in the election. This lying POS needs to go.

Yea, it wasn't very good and IMO it doesn't get him off the hook, but at least he's calling for them to disperse. I doubt that they accept it, though. Trump has let the Genie out of the bottle. This is going to have a real ugly end to it.

[c_hawkbob]

That message was so mixed his terrorist followers don't know whether to go home or fight on ...

Meanwhile they just called the second Georgia runoff for the Democrats giving them control of the Senate. Maybe now we can have a real impeachment.

[RiverDog]

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Everyone who made fun of HT and downplayed his warnings....here it is

I haven't seen the missiles flying and bombs dropping yet.

Now you're arguing degrees. HT was right.

HT wasn't completely right, but he was closer to the mark than I was.

What I'm wondering about is why weren't the police/secret service better prepared? They should have stopped this throng way before the got to the capitol. You can't tell me that a group this big couldn't or wasn't anticipated.

[RiverDog]

That message was so mixed his terrorist followers don't know whether to go home or fight on ...

Agreed. He shouldn't have said a word about the election.

Meanwhile The just called the second Georia runoff for the Democrats giving them control of the Senate. Maybe now we can have a real impeachment.

That has to happen the just as soon as Congress convenes. It's the only way to hold him accountable.

[c_hawkbob]

What I'm wondering about is why weren't the police/secret service better prepared? They should have stopped this throng way before the got to the capitol. You can't tell me that a group this big couldn't or wasn't anticipated.

It wasn't just unprepared, there had to be insiders helping the takeover in the first place. No way it should have been that easy.

[c_hawkbob]

That has to happen the just as soon as Congress convenes. It's the only way to hold him accountable.

Agreed!

[RiverDog]

What I'm wondering about is why weren't the police/secret service better prepared? They should have stopped this throng way before the got to the capitol. You can't tell me that a group this big couldn't or wasn't anticipated.

It wasn't just unprepared, there had to be insiders helping the takeover in the first place. No way it should have been that easy.

Could be. There definitely needs to be an investigation. It could have been a lot worse, and it's not over yet.

[RiverDog]

They've apparently set a curfew, 6:00pm ET, about 75 minutes from now.

There's been a woman shot and seriously injured inside the capitol and has been taken to a hospital.

[Hawktawk]

I haven't seen the missiles flying and bombs dropping yet.

Yeah well we haven't seen MAGA storming the capital before either.I predicted this was likely. I did not predict missiles but I fear greatly for our national security with this chaos and it would not surprise me to see military action. There's 14 days left at least. The man isn't going to ever go peacefully.He just released a message telling these seditionist traitors that the election was stolen like never before and he knows how they feel , "loves them" but they need to go home now. He should be removed right now.Should have already been long ago.I've said it for 4 years, he's a menace to america.
I rest my case, here we are.

[mykc14]

This has gone a little further than I thought, mainly because it was so easy but a few thousand crazy people is a far cry from the multiple millions that HT was talking about- which may still happen. Most people believed there would be some crazy people doing stupid stuff. With that being said these people need to be stopped and punished to the fullest extent of the law. Also Trump needs to come out and actually denounce this. We can't get to the 20th fast enough. I won't be surprised if there are more 'protests' that turn violent, but I still don't see multiple millions of Americans going to war over this.

[mykc14]

Trump tapped hate already there. All I hear from these Trump supporters is how much they hate and fear the Democrats.

There is no doubt that a fear of Democrats is a part of this, but Trump has also fueled that fear. Republicans need to step up and denounce this. I would say that Democrat policy has led to some of this much like a hatred of Trump led to riots this summer, but at the end of the day we are all responsible for our own actions and the leaders of these people need to control their bases.

[RiverDog]

This has gone a little further than I thought, mainly because it was so easy but a few thousand crazy people is a far cry from the multiple millions that HT was talking about- which may still happen. Most people believed there would be some crazy people doing stupid stuff. With that being said these people need to be stopped and punished to the fullest extent of the law. Also Trump needs to come out and actually denounce this. We can't get to the 20th fast enough. I won't be surprised if there are more 'protests' that turn violent, but I still don't see multiple millions of Americans going to war over this.

My sentiments exactly. This isn't the civil war HT predicted, at least not yet. But I will take my lumps in that it was way more than I expected.

The time for Trump to come out and denounce this activity has come and gone. The situation cannot be contained peacefully and can only be put down by some very violent and distasteful measures. Those people aren't willingly going home. I just hope that no one gets seriously injured.

[Hawktawk]

These were some of DJTs comments to the crowd in his hour long address "March on the capitol. You will never take our country back with weakness, you have to show strength". Rudy G went further saying "lets have a trial by combat" Prior to that Don Jr got up and gave such an unhinged profane speech the Fox network cut away. Immediately after the president remarks these people headed down pennsylvania Ave for the capital and here we are.

I've said it for weeks. This is sedition. The president should be removed immediately.

There are nationwide protests BTW, nothing like this yet.The longer this goes the better chance there will be.

[RiverDog]

These were some of DJTs comments to the crowd in his hour long address "March on the capitol. You will never take our country back with weakness, you have to show strength". Rudy G went further saying "lets have a trial by combat" Prior to that Don Jr got up and gave such an unhinged profane speech the Fox network cut away. Immediately after the president remarks these people headed down pennsylvania Ave for the capital and here we are.

I've said it for weeks. This is sedition. The president should be removed immediately.

There are nationwide protests BTW, nothing like this yet.The longer this goes the better chance there will be.

I'm not doubting you, but I haven't seen any information about other protests besides the one at the Capitol. Where are you getting your information?

[I-5]

Impeachment means nothing at this point. This idiot needs to removed ASAP. He is public enemy number one. Bring in President Pence to finish the term.

I can't believe people would go this far based on nothing but LIES. And they are still falling for it.

Asea, way out of line. C-Bob is right about the abusive husband analogy.

[Hawktawk]

I'm not doubting you, but I haven't seen any information about other protests besides the one at the Capitol. Where are you getting your information?

I saw it on my Phone, politico I think and just typed it verbatim. Trump spoke at a prearranged stop the steal rally at the other end of Pennsylvania Ave a couple of hours before this went sideways. Those are his reported remarks as well as those of Guliani. Rep Lois Gohmert has already called for violence several days ago.

These seditionists started walking towards the capitol right on cue as Trump concluded his remarks.Inciting a riot. MAGA

Ten seconds in the octagon with evil orange satan lord. Its all I ask. It wouldn't take that long

[I-5]

wasn't completely right, but he was closer to the mark than I was.

HT was completely right. No ifs or buts.

What I'm wondering about is why weren't the police/secret service better prepared? They should have stopped this throng way before the got to the capitol. You can't tell me that a group this big couldn't or wasn't anticipated.

You mean like the riot gear clad police that was set up at the US Capitol in preparation for BLM protests? I wonder if it has anything to do with who is doing the protesting.

[RiverDog]

Impeachment means nothing at this point. This idiot needs to removed ASAP. He is public enemy number one. Bring in President Pence to finish the term.

At this point, with two weeks remaining, I don't know how he would be legally removed.

Impeachment does two things: It disqualifies him from ever holding office again and it would make a powerful, historical statement.

[RiverDog]

What I'm wondering about is why weren't the police/secret service better prepared? They should have stopped this throng way before the got to the capitol. You can't tell me that a group this big couldn't or wasn't anticipated.

You mean like the riot gear clad police that was set up at the US Capitol in preparation for BLM protests? I wonder if it has anything to do with who is doing the protesting.

That's absurd! The Washington DC police department is led by a black mayor and a black chief of police. I saw them 30 minutes ago making a statement about the curfew.

[c_hawkbob]

I don't think it's absurd at all, I honestly believe if these were BLM protesters there would have been carnage by now.

[I-5]

Impeachment does two things: It disqualifies him from ever holding office again and it would make a powerful, historical statement.

And what if the republican Senate (currently at 50-48) doesn't confirm an impeachment?

[RiverDog]

I don't think it's absurd at all, I honestly believe if these were BLM protesters there would have been carnage by now.

First of all, this riot isn't over yet. Unfortunately, I expect it to get ugly. My only explanation is that they are trying to avoid a spectacle. Second of all, this has a long ways to go before we get to 100 consecutive days of rioting in dozens of cities like we saw this summer.

[RiverDog]

Impeachment does two things: It disqualifies him from ever holding office again and it would make a powerful, historical statement.

And what if the republican Senate (currently at 50-48) doesn't confirm an impeachment?

Although it will likely get tested in court, there is nothing in the Constitution preventing Congress from impeaching a former POTUS. They can do it either before or after the new Senate is seated.

Also, one of those Senator-elects takes office immediately as the incumbent was an appointee.

[I-5]

First of all, this riot isn't over yet. Unfortunately, I expect it to get ugly. My only explanation is that they are trying to avoid a spectacle. Second of all, this has a long ways to go before we get to 100 consecutive days of rioting in dozens of cities like we saw this summer.

Your responses unbelievable to the point of being funny. Reminds me of that meme of a person sitting at a table, drinking a cup of coffee, while flames are shooting up on all sides and on the ceiling, saying 'I'm fine'.