RiverDog wrote:The stats on negative racial incidents, and as far as that goes, incarcerations, does not necessarily mean that they are being targeted or discriminated against. Personally, I think that you look at the educational level, the drop out rate, the drug/alcohol rate, and the poverty level of minorities, that you'll find a direct correlation with their crime rate. That's where the real emphasis should be, helping these minorities stay in school, get good educations, stay off drugs, have access to post secondary education, and give them a way out. I'm all about opportunity and self help.
I mostly agree with you. There are some racist cops, but nowhere near the level the left wing media pushes. Fact is the left wing media and Democrats keep their bases voting for them almost solely on accusations of racism and carefully orchestrated media blitzes pushing racism along with inherent distrust within minority communities.
Like you I believe this can be attributed to other factors of which racism is just one. I don't even necessarily believe it is along racial lines, but localized to poor communities populated by a majority of minorities with enculturated gang culture with poverty being used to excuse behavior that is terrible for those communities, those people, and any push to improve them. These communities supporting Democrats who offer little more than subsistence programs to sustain these folks with no answer to the crime or long-term poverty on the sole basis of racism is a bad idea.
Not to mention there is an entire branch of academia and political leadership that wouldn't have jobs or anything to do with themselves if they didn't have racism to sell. There is a literally an industry segment along with supporting groups that make money selling racism just as there is a similar industry on the opposite side selling racism against white people and The Great Replacement. When people derive economic and political power from pushing these ideas, they are hard to root out.
But yes, on a statistical level the effect of racism on law enforcement is more of a disinformation campaign with gaggles of wrong information attributed to racism with no deeper discussion on the specific communities affected.
For example, some people use Asians as an example of a model minority to claim racism doesn't exist. But they don't even have to use Asians as an example, they can literally use Middle and Upper class Americans of African descent as well as those living in more rural areas to find that the negative police interaction issues are primarily focused in urban areas with impoverished people. It has little to do with their race and more to do with criminal culture within the community that even local businesses run by other African ancestry people have to pay extra to protect their businesses.
To put this in simpler terms, defunding the police is worse for people within minority communities with high crime rates than all them folks living in middle class or upper class suburban communities. So these types of laws will have a larger negative impact on the people they are made to protect because organizations like BLM don't have a good idea of what they need to fix the negatively impacted communities.
Oh, I know exactly why and when this law was made. But there is no evidence that any of the activities that are being restricted by this new law would have changed any of the issues brought to the forefront by BLM. How many of these restrictions, had they been in place 5 years ago, would have prevented the shooting/killing of an unarmed black man? Perhaps the one on choke holds, but what about the one on police pursuits or the use of non lethal weapons? How about handcuffing a suspect? IMO this law is an extreme, unjustified overreaction.
Not sure, but I hope the politicians are using some form of data. Not sure they are. It may be another one of those laws made to appease the mob without any good data to support it.
Well, I sure hope that there is no real change. But if you look at some of these incidents, I'm afraid that the crime rate will get worse. Additionally, it's just one more issue that's going to drive a wedge between the right and the left.
People who live where we live weren't going to be impacted much anyway. I doubt you live in a high crime area. I know I don't.
Main people who might be impacted are already in high crime areas. I don't see how this will affect much considering the majority of crimes are based on calls or police work after the crime is committed. I worked with a bunch of former cops. The one thing I learned talking with former cops is there job is nothing like the television. It's all after the crime paperwork. I worked with a detective who worked robbery and I think homicide, I was surprised the majority of her job was writing reports and taking reports from citizens and other officers to collect leads and write more reports. Most cops spend their time writing reports on what they do with a little excitement here and there waiting for calls.
It's probably more exciting in a high crime neighborhood. Not sure how much.
All I know for certain is the people this law is meant to protect are likely the most screwed because police will be slower (and they were already slow according to films at least) to react to crime in high crime communities with minority populations. Why go to a place that is going to get you fired from your job to deal with a hostile population? I think it's all around bad for the Democrats and bad for citizens in high crime communities.
For people like you and I living in low crime areas where the police respond knowing they have the support of the community, we'll get a good response. Which is another thing short-sighted politicians and left wing media pushing racism don't seem to get: making cops feel unwelcome and vilified in a particular community just further makes them not want to work in those communities and provide quality policing.