NorthHawk wrote:All you have to do is look at the legislation that has been passed from the local level to past presidencies. How much of the extreme agenda has been opposed by 'Moderate Republicans'? Not a whole lot, and they could put an end to this kind of stuff, but refuse to do so. The conclusion that has to be made is they are complicit in this agenda. Economically there's no question the country has been moved far from center to the right. It's been a slow progression and the results are what we see today with the huge gap between the extremely rich and the average working person trying to get by.
And if you look at the left, you don't see a moderate agenda either. So not sure what you're talking about or what you consider moderate.
In Washington State, they are once again trying an assault weapons ban with a nebulous idea of what an assault weapon is.
Laws have been passed changing what were once serious property crimes to misdemeanors so certain property crime acts are no longer felonies. But setting the theft threshold at 1000 dollars for a felony is horsecrap encouraging shoplifting and property crime.
Then the lack of serious drug enforcement for heroin and the overlooking of homeless encampments in major cities.
You think the legislation being passed is what? Moderate left? Many of us view it as completely unreasonable and ridiculous legislation meant to create a very unpleasant living environment. We don't want heroin addicts begging outside of stores. We don't want constant shoplifting and worrying about property crime. We're tired of the thieves and such taking advantage of laws that make their behavior misdemeanor crimes. They can steal up to a 1000 dollar TV and get a slap on the wrist? That is not what many Americans consider moderate.
That doesn't even begin to mention the prepubescent transgender crap. A prepubescent kid should not be receiving hormone therapy for being "misgendered." How is that even entering their head unless they have access to social media with no limitations from their parents? Then you have Democrats supporting this? Yet if my kid came up to me and said, "Hey, I want to be a bodybuilder now. Can you get me some steroids?" The left would flip out as that was extreme.
So you have these Republicans that vote for what they consider the only politicians offering a more sensible approach to governance and this is what you get because the policies by the left are anything but moderate.
And I'm not sure what you mean by center economic policies. Democrats seem to have the attitude they're owed something. The left never bothers to try to appeal to people like myself. You know hard working people that grew up in poor families but decided to save, invest, and manage money intelligently so they didn't end up living paycheck to paycheck because they blow money on crap, engage in a lot of vices, don't work hard, don't learn a quality skill, and manage their health, finances, and life badly.
Do the Democrats have any requirements for their help? Do you to have show any sort of sense of financial responsibility? Or do we have to accept the lie...and yes it is a huge lie...that we're all somehow subject to being used by the wealthy? I literally am proof of this complete horsecrap lie. I do not accept that America doesn't provide an environment where an intelligent person managing their money well even if from a poor family can't live well. I literally do this. It's not even that hard. You can save, invest, and find jobs and income very easily in America with even moderate effort. Yet Democrats are constantly trying to claim exploitation by wealthy parties, even though I and many of my friends with moderate incomes have done just fine by following very simple, easy to follow financial principles of save money, buy a home or other solid asset, put in work, and build wealth over time.
Why don't Democrats teach this at all? Why are they constantly trying to sell us that we're exploited, need higher taxes, and are all poor? It's just horsecrap. Democrats need to show they have standards of expected behavior for financial management before they expect us all to toss in our money we managed intelligently to fix what are not financial issues, but issues of personal responsibility with the citizens.
I don't care if you want to spend your time smoking dope and playing video games at home or parents want to let their kids live at home smoking dope and playing video games, but I don't want to have to pay for that garbage with tax money when I don't engage in that behavior. It's not morally right. It shows Democrats are not first expecting smart financial management from citizens before they sell them on the tax and spend fixes for their economic issues.
I'm a very reasonable person. I don't like what a lot of the Republicans are doing. But claiming the Democrats are moderates is completely horsecrap. They are not and haven't been for some time. You might find a few moderates in each party, but the overall parties are driven by special interests and extremists with political media selling conflict to keep these groups voting for the party that seems less insane to them.
I'd be quite happy to vote for politicians offering what I want to see. I'd be open to gun reform somewhere between "Ban all the bad weapons" to "No gun limitations at all." Neither fits the 2nd Amendment or manages weapon ownership in the way a free nation should. As I stated I seriously need to see higher expectations and standards of behavior expected by the Democrats. I know the Republicans behave just as badly, but they at least give some lip service towards behavioral standards. I'd rather see some real behavioral standards upheld and not just the lip service or lack of anything by both political parties.
The governance by these two parties sucks. All I see from both political sides supporters is people who think they're better than the other side, while nothing real is getting done to make America a better place to live. Just a bunch of yapping with no real movement on policies to improve things or maintain American cultural standards, financial standards, or much of the inherent ideas of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness the nation was built to encourage.