NorthHawk wrote:If you want to get rid of the MAGA BS the only way is to vote Democrat up and down the ballot.
Hold your nose if you must, but if DT gets back into power this will have been your last chance to save your democracy. He's already planning to wipe out the existing gov't personnel and replace them with Trump loyalists deep into the public service.
They have in some reports readied locations for encampments for those who oppose them and Trump has said he will go after his enemies. They are making plans to use the Military to 'Bring order back to the streets' which means martial law.
The R's in at least 1 State have passed laws where the elected members can override the vote of the people and order that State's Electoral College to vote for their chosen Presidential candidate. The extreme Gerrymandering by the Republicans and even in one case ignoring the Supreme Court order to redesign their electoral boundaries shows how they will govern.
A vote for a 3rd party will continue to legitimize the far right - keep in mind that is the Republican party of today, not the party of considered thought but of Donald Trumps whimsy. If you don't believe me, look at what Paul Ryan, Liz Cheney, and Adam Kinzinger have to say, as well as those senior Republican politicians that are retiring. To a person they say the traditional Republican party is gone and MAGA runs it.
The only way to snuff this out is to vote Democrat from top to bottom and send a huge message to that side that you don't want that BS running and eventually destroying the country. All because of the madness of King Donald the first.
In 4 years go after the radical left if that's still your concern, but the immediate threat comes from the Republicans who are far right.
NorthHawk wrote:If you want to get rid of the MAGA BS the only way is to vote Democrat up and down the ballot.
Hold your nose if you must, but if DT gets back into power this will have been your last chance to save your democracy. He's already planning to wipe out the existing gov't personnel and replace them with Trump loyalists deep into the public service.
They have in some reports readied locations for encampments for those who oppose them and Trump has said he will go after his enemies. They are making plans to use the Military to 'Bring order back to the streets' which means martial law.
The R's in at least 1 State have passed laws where the elected members can override the vote of the people and order that State's Electoral College to vote for their chosen Presidential candidate. The extreme Gerrymandering by the Republicans and even in one case ignoring the Supreme Court order to redesign their electoral boundaries shows how they will govern.
A vote for a 3rd party will continue to legitimize the far right - keep in mind that is the Republican party of today, not the party of considered thought but of Donald Trumps whimsy. If you don't believe me, look at what Paul Ryan, Liz Cheney, and Adam Kinzinger have to say, as well as those senior Republican politicians that are retiring. To a person they say the traditional Republican party is gone and MAGA runs it.
The only way to snuff this out is to vote Democrat from top to bottom and send a huge message to that side that you don't want that BS running and eventually destroying the country. All because of the madness of King Donald the first.
In 4 years go after the radical left if that's still your concern, but the immediate threat comes from the Republicans who are far right.
RiverDog wrote:Well, that's not an option for me. The Democrats in this state are completely unacceptable to me, mostly due to their totally unreasonable approach to energy related issues, ie the carbon tax, breaching the LSRD's, dismissal of nuclear as an option, and a proposed wind farm a few miles from where I live that covers 120 square miles and has towers taller than the Space Needle of which 78% of the locals are opposed to, issues that directly affect my quality of life and my pocketbook.
There's also the issues of crime, homelessness, and drug abuse, problems that have exploded here on the Democrats' watch, and while they may not be completely responsible for all of those problems, they have no solutions for them, either. If I find a Republican candidate that isn't a Trump supporter, and the do exist, I'm voting for them, at least here locally.
So, while I can see myself voting for Biden again should Trump get the nomination, I will not be voting Democratic up and down the ballot.
RiverDog wrote:Well, that's not an option for me. The Democrats in this state are completely unacceptable to me, mostly due to their totally unreasonable approach to energy related issues, ie the carbon tax, breaching the LSRD's, dismissal of nuclear as an option, and a proposed wind farm a few miles from where I live that covers 120 square miles and has towers taller than the Space Needle of which 78% of the locals are opposed to, issues that directly affect my quality of life and my pocketbook.
There's also the issues of crime, homelessness, and drug abuse, problems that have exploded here on the Democrats' watch, and while they may not be completely responsible for all of those problems, they have no solutions for them, either. If I find a Republican candidate that isn't a Trump supporter, and the do exist, I'm voting for them, at least here locally.
So, while I can see myself voting for Biden again should Trump get the nomination, I will not be voting Democratic up and down the ballot.
Aseahawkfan wrote:The politics of environmental Armageddon are giving Democrats a free ticket to do whatever to "fix" the environment, while the government contracts to build wind farms and other renewable energy sources go to their buddies in big corporate businesses paid for by taxpayer money for our own "good." You wonder why I question this stuff at times, because I follow the money. This isn't all about our own "good." Environmental Armageddon politics is huge money for a lot of multibillion dollar companies that investors are making huge multiple growth on regardless if it is producing the desired effect to improve the environment.
Carbon taxes with this government approved carbon neutral rating is nothing more than illusionary government accounting. Read up on carbon taxes and how much BS they are. A pure game of corporate tax manipulation voted in by our government that doesn't actually reduce carbon emissions since companies can now just pay for the carbon they produce getting massive, taxpayer paid credits. What a scam the carbon tax rules are.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Working Americans pay for almost everything. Sure, the 1% pay roughly 20%, but they make like 95 or more % of the income and own the majority of valuable assets as well. Which is why I would prefer if I'm going to be taxed huge amounts my labor in federal income taxes, SS taxes, medicare taxes, sales taxes, gas taxes, family leave taxes, and more taxes than I can list here, then why the hell aren't we getting some nice social services to help us out.
It seems insane to me we have the highest tax revenues of any nation on the planet and yet we get some of the least help from our government until we retire. Then it's like you finally breathe a sigh of relief like you get to do now and get to travel while having health insurance wherever you go without having to put in your 40 plus hours a week just to keep your insurance regardless of what is going on in your life.
c_hawkbob wrote:BS. SS would be entirely self funded if left alone. All these people retiring now are the ones that put all that money into the fund in the first place. If the government could leave it alone it'd be flush. Bush 'borrowed' $1.37 trillion of Social Security to pay for his tax cuts for the rich and his war in Iraq, altogether the government owes $2.7 trillion to SS but they call it "intragovernmental" spending and "intragovernmental" debt to keep it under wraps. And you know if you've ever borrowed from your 401k that the money they "borrowed" is a lot bigger hit than just the face value. Putting that $2.7T back won't near make up the difference.
RiverDog wrote:I hate to keep kicking a dead horse as I know that you don't like hearing me saying it, but the root cause of the problems you elude to is the age demographic imbalance and the resulting labor shortage. It was not something that was anticipated when they came up with these well meaning social programs like Social Security and Medicare. WW2 and the ensuing Baby Boomer generation F-ed everything up. And on the other side of the equation, starting in 1960 at the end of the boomer generation and the advent of "the pill", oral contraceptives, the birth rate plummeted and has never approached the levels that were present in the 50's. And so here we sit, with a bunch of old coffin dodgers like myself and not enough young whipper snappers like yourself to take care of us. Japan is in an even worse situation.
One of the reasons why I like Nikki Haley is that she's tackling Social Security and other entitlement programs head on instead of avoiding it and kicking the can down the road. They're going to have to do things that working people like you will hate, ie raise taxes, and that retirees like myself that will hate, cut benefits. But it has to be done if you want to have something to retire on.
Some things that they could do that would inflict the least amount of pain. Eliminate early retirement. Make everyone work until their FRA (Full Retirement Age, ie 67) before they are eligible for any benefits. It would help solve the labor shortage as it would keep more people in the work force. Secondly, get rid of survivor benefits. Make each individual use their own account vs. that of their spouse,
Anyhow, those are just a couple of random thoughts.
Aseahawkfan wrote:https://apnews.com/article/california-medicaid-expansion-undocumented-immigrants-34d8deb2186e9195b253f499e81a3d77
What do you think of this, Riverdog?
This is why it is so easy for the right to attack the Dems on immigration. Why it's hard to understand why Democrats don't see the crazy in their own party.
This is purely irresponsible government to literally send the message around the world that California is willing to use taxpayer money to provide healthcare to every single immigrant that somehow makes it into California. The California Democratic government without the consent of the people is volunteering California state taxpayer money to provide healthcare for any undocumented immigrant that somehow makes it to California.
Irresponsible governing by Democrats. Straight using the government and taxpayer money they are responsible for managing for charity for non American citizens, but anyone from anywhere that makes it to California.
So when Trump talks, he finds ears to listen because the Democratic Party can't get control of their own loons governing in an irresponsible manner using taxpayer money and a position of power they have been appointed to by a vote of the people.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I'm with you, RD.
I'm not about to start hating on immigrants. Like you, I work with a ton of great people from other places. I love the food and love the stories and learning about other cultures.
But it's irresponsible to let this uncontrolled immigration occur. The government has a responsibility not to manage the limited taxpayer generated funds in a manner that is damaging to the nation or state in which they govern.
It is very sad that other nations are so badly managed their people want to come here, but we can't let our country get destroyed by mismanagement or we're all going to be living in the third world with nowhere to go. That isn't better for anyone.
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