burrrton wrote:I told Kal in a PM I wasn't going to get in the middle of this sh*tshow, but that felt like talking behind someone's back, which I don't like to do, so:
Eaglehawk, with all due respect, you need to step back for a sec and get a grip.
If you think Kal lacks the faculties, willingness, and ability to argue in good faith with you, you're bananas, and I say that as someone that has gone the rounds with him many times over the years (as I have with just about everybody else at one time or another!).
Burr,
I need to get a grip. Are you nuts? Argue in good faith? That was never the issue. Thanks for your unsolicited advice. We both are grown men.
I don't need ANYONE on this forum telling me JACK about whether I should or not get a "grip' much less you.
You Burr get a grip. I know exactly where Kalibane is spinning and where he puffing and huffing. More than you even arguably.
Stay out of this mess Burr. Seriously.
If you get into this mud slinging fest I guarantee that you too will be sullied. And that will not be good for any of us.
Kalibane needs you to fight his fight as well?
What a PUSSY.
That proves my point as to why Kalibane was insinuating me bringing in River into his fight, when River tried his best to make his point while ensuring that both our positions were respected. You just proved my point that Kalibane is a petty pompous ass that thinks I should bow down to his BS.
Won't happen. BURR WITH ALL DUE RESPECT(And up to now I do respect you.) STAY THE F OUT.
And to be clear, the air is belng slowly cleared here, but you had to blow up dirt Burr. Good its okay, but tell your buddy Kal that I will be here arguing in GOOD FAITH my points 365 DAYS A YEAR, just to stop his twisting of the facts which few on here pick up on, but I do. And I will show this later. We are talking about one issue Burr. Don't mistake your inability to argue with Kal on your issue with my ability to argue with Kal on THIS ISSUE.
And yes good faith no problem, but spare me the Eagle get a grip. You should just have left your powder dry. As so many other posters reading and absorbing this. Cause trust me, while they may not all be in my corner, nor do I expect them, they don't like bullies. And that is exactly what you and Kalibane are appearing to be. BULLIES.
The fact that you popped up tells me that Kalibane knows he is a paper tiger, and is a weak man. How can you feel that breaking forum protocol and getting involved in this mudslinging contest would EVER come out good for you Burr. The guy reminds me of someone in 08 who spoke great rhetoric, but was just another hack.
Thanks Burr, I APOLOGIZE deeply for my tone and any negative things I may have said about you. Sorry bro. But from the bottom of my heart, please, please take my advice, stay out. I predict it will take a few weeks of me and Kal going back and forth for him to understand how flawed he is.
That's not time I want you to waste Burr. And while I don't respect Kal, I do see some value in his arguments. His pettiness, obtuseness, willful twisting of facts will not go on any longer on this thread at least. He also gives me the impression that he is the GOD(implicitly) of this FORUM. He nor you nor I are lords over others. Even though he does engage in nice prose. Truth of the matter is that I do at times agree with him. No doubt. But I'll be damned to agree with him on the points he mentioned in this thread. For me to let that go would be to be disingenuous to myself.
I don't care if the entire forum ganged up on me, I am always going to be hanging onto Kalibane throat figuratively if I see he is wrong.
In fact we are all respected members of this forum, why are you getting involved in this Burr?
This is not your fight, Burr.