c_hawkbob wrote:Drew has not been bad, losing Spoon has hurt us more than anything.
Aseahawkfan wrote:We made it to halftime with a chance to win. What more can you ask for?
Aseahawkfan wrote:This season is going about as expected. We really aren't going to be very good until they fix the LBs and run defense meaning the middle of the line. We won't be enough on offense without a higher performing QB. Four more games to go. We got the Eagles coming, which is a likely loss. Then some winnable games.
This is not a contending team. I didn't think it was when the season started. I wish we had never traded for Jamal Adams or Leonard Williams.
I'd like to see the seat heat up under Pete and John. You can't keep failing to produce a quality defense when your whole specialty is defense.
Aseahawkfan wrote:We made it to halftime with a chance to win. What more can you ask for?
4XPIPS wrote:I honestly only see one win from here on out. Playoff hopes have been long gone for me over a month. I said when we were 5-2 and knew we had problems then and we got away with easy wins, and some wins that we could have easily lost. Now we are 6-7 and there would need to be a miracle to happen to make the playoffs.
Pete's style of defense does not apply to the league rules today, and it is time for him to hang it up, but I think he is just too hard headed to adjust and still think running a soft zone defense is the way to stop offenses, but we just get picked apart week after week on defense. Our offense just lacks creativity, and is too predictable. Even Greg Olsen on Fox pointed out that our 2nd downs are pretty much scripted to runs when its 2nd and 7+, easy to gameplan against. I am no fan of tanking, and don't think tanking will do a whole lot where we are at this point of the season. I just don't think Pete would ever endure a tanking strategy, but with a 7-10 finish we should be able to still grab some talent at that position.
As for QB, well it is good as it gets with what we have now and it does not seem like it will get any better. Need to bring the right staff in here to recruit for better talent, and create more of an effective scheme that works with today's offense.
I said it before, Pete isn't going anywhere because of his roles in the organization.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Hard to know if Pete's style is the problem when his safeties are this bad. And his LBs are weak. I'm not buying the scheme issues so much as no longer having the talent to execute the schemes. We're literally watching the players get beat in real time. It don't matter how good your schemes are if the talent is flat out getting beat like watching Deebo blow by Adams or McCaffrey blow through our line and LBs. Your players have to be able to win their matchups for a defense or offense to work and in the case of offense the QB also has to be able to hit the right player at the right time. If they can't, your scheme don't matter because the players will just get beat.
It's why I told you talent beats scheme every time and every Sunday we see it when great players beat weaker players again and again and again. I told you Deebo is a problem. If you don't have safeties good enough to stop Deebo, well, this is what you get.
I'm tired of hearing about this tired ass scheme crap when we don't have good players. Our guys are not good enough to match up with a player like Deebo or a team like Frisco with McCaffrey and Deebo. Until we do get better talent, you could scheme as much as you want and you'll be watching our weaker players get beat.
Adams is crap in pass defense. We never should have traded two first round picks for him.
Diggs is no Earl. He gets beat all the time and misses tackles.
We need better players.
Some of you act like Waldron or Hurtt are on the field. They aren't. We can see with our own eyes our players getting beat or missing tackles or flat out being too slow to the ball. That isn't scheme. That is talent that can't compete.
4XPIPS wrote:Well that eludes to my point, you can get upset all you want and cry about it, but it takes excellent talent evaluators to address the needs correctly to identify the talented players we need to fit our scheme, which is a lackluster scheme anyhow. Who's fault is it why we don't have "as talented" players on our roster? Hmmm, coaching, coordinators, scouts, trainers?
I just think our total staff as a whole gets a D- grade because they cannot to bring in the talented players we need to execute a high level. This game was an example of great coaching and player development and identifying players that fit their scheme and execute a high level. Yes the coordinators as well as Pete are to blame for putting this product out there, and yes I agree we don't the talented players to compete at a high level.
For you to state we don't have any good players, I think you are dead wrong there. We do have some players that I would say are good players.
NorthHawk wrote:After seeing Lock for a full game, I don't see a lot of space between him and Geno. Lock hasn't played a lot so he must be at least a little bit rusty but he made some good decisions along with some poor ones.
Since the Cap will be real hard to manage, I would rather they cut Geno and pay Lock $10M or so and draft a young QB to develop for a year. Since they bodged the draft capital by trading for Williams, we have to
expect a few years more of rebuilding.
NorthHawk wrote:How much has he played in the last couple of years - something like 12 plays before yesterday. Any player at any position is going to have some brain farts and make mistakes, but Geno has similar issues at times and he's played the last 2 years.
As well, it would only be for 1 year and we need a couple of drafts to get more talent over and above QB. Since we only have about $6M in expected Cap space next year according to OvertheCap and we have about 14 players going into FA that we might want to re-sign, cutting Geno (along with Adams and Diggs) could go a long way to signing either our own FA's at some positions and maybe some new ones. It means a lot of Dead Cap accumulation but we are getting into a bind next year without some major changes.
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