4XPIPS wrote:I am not religious by any means, but I don't have an issue with the concept of religion as my closest friends and family are religious. However, was it me or did this Superbowl have more commercials in regards to religion? I can't remember in the past there were this many or if any ads based on religion. There was also an ad for Scientology as well. Anyways, not taking any digs at those who are religious but sort felt it was more than I have experienced in the past.
RiverDog wrote:I noticed that, too. I also noticed that they dipped their toes into politics and ran a very controversial ad from RFK Jr., a fringe politician to say the least, and used his famed uncle as the main feature.
RiverDog wrote:I noticed that, too. I also noticed that they dipped their toes into politics and ran a very controversial ad from RFK Jr., a fringe politician to say the least, and used his famed uncle as the main feature.
4XPIPS wrote:Yeah that was weird too. It was layered bad. A lot of weird faces in the household when that came on. Mind you I am in New Zealand so I had some Kiwis in my house when the game was on, and they were like "what was that mate?"
Oly wrote:There were definitely more, but it didn't surprise or bother me. I'm a former evangelical-turned-atheist, but I recognize that religion plays an important role for people and society. I'd rather have those Jesus ads driving the Christian ethos of this country than the kinds of things I heard in church that drove me away.
curmudgeon wrote:Didn’t watch but I wouldn’t be opposed to more and far less of the woke BS that has been shoved down our throats…..
Oly wrote:There were definitely more, but it didn't surprise or bother me. I'm a former evangelical-turned-atheist, but I recognize that religion plays an important role for people and society. I'd rather have those Jesus ads driving the Christian ethos of this country than the kinds of things I heard in church that drove me away.
Oly wrote:Well, you might be disappointed. It was a religious ad, but it was about love and tolerance, with the message "Jesus didn't teach hate." For some anti-woke crusaders, that is a step too far. But judge for yourself.
https://youtu.be/94BqlDQ-Ppo?si=sTkoq5FAXpXbFC8W
Oly wrote:Well, you might be disappointed. It was a religious ad, but it was about love and tolerance, with the message "Jesus didn't teach hate." For some anti-woke crusaders, that is a step too far. But judge for yourself.
https://youtu.be/94BqlDQ-Ppo?si=sTkoq5FAXpXbFC8W
4XPIPS wrote:Alright I am throwing it out there, but this ad has a lot going on. Here is the part that flummoxed me the most. Right at 31 to 32 secs of the video you see what appears to be a farmer's wife washing a young women's feet, this young women IMO looks to be a Muslim. Muslim's are Islamic, and one of my co workers is a Muslim, and I had him watch the video twice and even was laughing at this like "we don't think Jesus is divine." Also he agreed that young women looks Muslim.
To me this message was created by AI, and certainly to rub some people the wrong way. The message IMO is pretty wide open.
4XPIPS wrote:Alright I am throwing it out there, but this ad has a lot going on. Here is the part that flummoxed me the most. Right at 31 to 32 secs of the video you see what appears to be a farmer's wife washing a young women's feet, this young women IMO looks to be a Muslim. Muslim's are Islamic, and one of my co workers is a Muslim, and I had him watch the video twice and even was laughing at this like "we don't think Jesus is divine." Also he agreed that young women looks Muslim.
To me this message was created by AI, and certainly to rub some people the wrong way. The message IMO is pretty wide open.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Are you sure that is what the Muslim told you about Jesus?
In Islam, Jesus is the prophet Isa. He is one of the five great prophets. He is the prophet that will return in the Muslim version of the end times. He was conceived by a virgin birth in Islam. He is of the line Maryam. They do not teach any of his teachings to my knowledge and do not learn extensively about Isa.
The one thing they do not believe is that he is the Son of God and that he is God on earth. But as far as not divine, he is one of the five great prophets of the 124,000 prophets believed to be blessed by Allah and a near perfect example of a Muslim. He is the prophet that will return in the end of days over Mohammed. So Jesus/Isa is a pretty important prophet in Islam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
Maybe not true, but it could be this particular Christian group doing these ads knows the Muslims have great love for Jesus/Isa and included them in it. Or could be just be Jesus message to be kind to all. Not real sure. But Jesus is a big, important figure in Islam. Just not as central as Jesus is to the Christians since the Mohammed fulfills that role in Islam as the central prophet of Islam from which their teachings hail.
Also could be that they are using the image of a Christian woman from the Middle East, many who dress like Muslim woman. The garb we look at as Muslim in the modern day was common Christian female attire as well way back when.
4XPIPS wrote:Alright I am throwing it out there, but this ad has a lot going on. Here is the part that flummoxed me the most. Right at 31 to 32 secs of the video you see what appears to be a farmer's wife washing a young women's feet, this young women IMO looks to be a Muslim. Muslim's are Islamic, and one of my co workers is a Muslim, and I had him watch the video twice and even was laughing at this like "we don't think Jesus is divine." Also he agreed that young women looks Muslim.
To me this message was created by AI, and certainly to rub some people the wrong way. The message IMO is pretty wide open.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Or could be just be Jesus message to be kind to all. Not real sure. But Jesus is a big, important figure in Islam. Just not as central as Jesus is to the Christians since the Mohammed fulfills that role in Islam as the central prophet of Islam from which their teachings hail.
4XPIPS wrote:their Agenda
"Our agenda at He Gets Us is to move beyond the mess of our current cultural moment to a place where all of us are invited to rediscover the love story of Jesus – Christians, non-Christians, and everybody in between. All of us. Read more about it"
Their POV on LGBTQ+
"These are probably the most common questions we receive. And we understand why. Many of those who represent Jesus have made people in the LGBTQ+ community feel judged and excluded. And others in the Jesus community have simply ignored their stories and lived experiences.
So let us be clear in our opinion. Jesus loves gay people and Jesus loves trans people. The LGBTQ+ community, like all people, is invited to explore the story of Jesus and consider his example of unconditional love, grace, and forgiveness of others. No matter who you are, YOU are invited to explore the story of Jesus and consider what it means for your life."
Quite the stance I shall say.
4XPIPS wrote:Think I am making this up?
Your comment"
Are you sure that is what the Muslim told you about Jesus?
My co worker as you objectify as "the Muslim" is a Muslim, and I can't honestly say if he represents entire religious faction nor does claim he does. In his own words Isa you so put it is considered a prophet, but most Muslims(and I quote from his perspective) do not view Jesus as divine.
Now I have no place to speak of Islam as I am not Muslim or have much experience with Islam.
Next your reference Wikipedia of all places as a source. Here is a fact Wikipedia is not deemed a reliable source by most universities, so I recommend tread lightly.
Going back to the ad it delivers numerous amounts of perspectives. It's rare to have one religious belief in conjunction with another. Again it can viewed many ways, and honestly I should probably see it as a beautiful thing to see one religion accepting of another religion.
Going to the hegetsus.com, the creators of this ad, and going to their about us page is what they make two interesting statements
their Agenda
"Our agenda at He Gets Us is to move beyond the mess of our current cultural moment to a place where all of us are invited to rediscover the love story of Jesus – Christians, non-Christians, and everybody in between. All of us. Read more about it"
Their POV on LGBTQ+
"These are probably the most common questions we receive. And we understand why. Many of those who represent Jesus have made people in the LGBTQ+ community feel judged and excluded. And others in the Jesus community have simply ignored their stories and lived experiences.
So let us be clear in our opinion. Jesus loves gay people and Jesus loves trans people. The LGBTQ+ community, like all people, is invited to explore the story of Jesus and consider his example of unconditional love, grace, and forgiveness of others. No matter who you are, YOU are invited to explore the story of Jesus and consider what it means for your life."
Quite the stance I shall say.
For 2nd straight year, Super Bowl watchers see 'He Gets Us' ads featuring Jesus partly funded by Hobby Lobby family.
jshawaii22 wrote:This is how they were paid according to Newsweek: By the "Hobby Lobby" owners and family.
For 2nd straight year, Super Bowl watchers see 'He Gets Us' ads featuring Jesus partly funded by Hobby Lobby family.
Aseahawkfan wrote:The Jesus ads? I've seen or heard those a ton. Not sure what church sponsors them, but they are so common now I don't even notice. They are usually targeted for people in need of help as the church is generally one of the few organizations trying to help people in need.
I couldn’t agree more.More Jesus and less woke is oxymoronic.
HawkSis wrote:The he gets us ads are funded and produced by big monied evangelicals disguised as accepting and loving people. They are also VERY involved in working to overturn Roe and to discriminate against LBGTQ communities, among others. They had a name change because people were seeing their hypocrisy. What it says on their website is the text… gotta read the subtext.
And BINGO, Bobby. More Jesus and less woke is oxymoronic. I couldn’t agree more.
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