NorthHawk wrote:Too much BS before the start and during the event at times as well.
Penix is interesting as it was mentioned that it might have been an owner selection. If so, it relieves the pressure on the FO for taking him, but Cousins is coming off a major injury and nobody knows how well he will do so taking one of the
better passers might be a good long term move. Add to it Cousins is 36 I believe so he may pull the plug earlier than his contract might suggest. It will be good for Penix to learn how to play and study at the NFL level without the same pressure that other QBs will probably have.
I'm tuning in at 4pm because JS might just want to trade up for a player if someone they like falls into the mid to late 2nd round. As well it will be interesting to see what other teams are doing.
What I don't like about the draft broadcasts is in the later rounds where the so called experts are clowning around like some G rated Frat party when the only people watching are the true fans who want to know something about the player their team just selected or others that are still on the board, not to mention the probable Undrafted Free Agents who could be value signings.
NorthHawk wrote:He’s traded up in the past with DK and Taylor so it’s not unheard of.
c_hawkbob wrote:Traded pick 102 for picks No. 121, No. 136, and No. 207.
Summary
Tyrice Knight is a good leader and communicator as a box linebacker. He is at his best reading the flow of the play and utilizing quick click and close to make plays in space. Knight occasionally gets sucked down into the box, and his lack of height means he loses sight of the ball-carrier and struggles to get off blocks. He has great quickness and is able to build speed quickly to finish plays.
About
2023: First-team All-Conference USA
2023: Led Conference USA with 140 tackles (4th in FBS)
Strengths
Good leader and communicator
Builds speed quickly, good quickness
Trusts his eyes
Good top-end speed
Massive wingspan
Weaknesses
Gets sucked into the box and struggles to get off blocks
9.7% missed tackle rate in 2023, per TruMedia
Shorter frame
Combine Data
40-yard dash: 4.63 seconds
Bench press: 21 reps
Vertical jump: 34.5 inches
20-yard shuttle run: 4.40 seconds
Broad jump: 9 feet, 11 inches
3-cone drill: 7.25 seconds
Summary
AJ Barner is a lengthy tight end prospect who is more effective working short to intermediate because of his lack of top-end speed. He has average hands but blocks with a sturdy base and knows how to seal lanes in the run game. Barner needs to do a better job of moving his feet when engaged in order to sustain blocks.
About
2023: 22 catches, 249 yards and 1 TD catch for CFP title winners
Career: 64 catches, 610 yards, 5 TD catches in 4 years (3 at Indiana, 1 at Michigan)
Strengths
Blocks with solid base and leverage inline
Good job sealing run lanes as an inline blocker
Snaps off route breaks on comebacks
Great length
Weaknesses
Limited to short to intermediate game due to lack of vertical speed
Needs to do a better job adjusting his hands to sustain blocks when engaged
Drifts too far into coverage
Average hands
Summary
Nehemiah Pritchett is a spindly outside CB with good height but short arms. Twitch is certainly there. Clicks and closes on in-breaking routes and comebacks with conviction. Tackling leaves a lot to be desired but will occasionally lay the lumber despite his lighter frame. Has enough speed to carry deep routes but not a pure blazer. Plenty of zone experience and demonstrated keen zone awareness. Some man-coverage ability too. Physical receivers can overwhelm him, and he isn't a mirroring master at this stage of his career. Tiny pass breakup radius hurts his overall ability to be productive, but he’s typically around the football.
About
Career: 3-year starter had 115 tackles, 5.5 TFL and 3 INT
2022: Team's DB of the year
Strengths
Good combination of man and zone ability
Light feet with good explosiveness
Plays the ball in the air with consistency
Weaknesses
Tackling leaves a lot to be desired
Doesn't have a speciality
Short arms
Combine Data
40-yard dash: 4.36 seconds
Vertical jump: 34.5 inches
Summary
Sataoa Laumea has played tackle but projects inside at the next level. He has a long wingspan that allows him to dictate action at the point of contact. He has good strength but can do a better job of moving his feet when engaged. Laumea has good first-step quickness and good eyes to handle stunts into his gap.
About
Four-time All-Pac 12 (first-team in 2022)
Career: 44 consecutive starts (19 at RG, 25 at RT
Strengths
Long wingspan
Good eyes to handle stunts in his gap
Good first-step quickness
Versatility having played both tackle and guard
Does a good job sealing run lanes
Weaknesses
Can do a better job of moving his feet to stay engaged
Pad level needs to be more consistent, plays high occasionally
Below-average recovery speed for a tackle
Combine Data
Bench press: 26 reps
Vertical jump: 26 inches
Broad jump: 8 feet, 8 inches
Summary
DJ James is a boundary cornerback with a more slender frame. He lacks the mass to hold up in run support and consistently re-route bigger receivers. James is a good communicator who shows good awareness in zone coverage. He has good top-end speed and longer arms that allow him to recover and be more competitive at the catch point.
About
2022: Second-team All-SEC
Career: 24 starts
Strengths
Good communicator and leader
Good awareness in zone coverage
Quick key and trigger downhill out of zone coverage
Weaknesses
Can do a better job of coming to balance in space to make a tackle
Lacks ideal mass to hold up in the run game
Lacks ideal mass to consistently re-route bigger receivers
Combine Data
40-yard dash: 4.42 seconds
c_hawkbob wrote:At 207 another Guard prospect, Michael Jerrell, OL, Findlay ... never heard of him or his school, can't find much on him, yet.
He worked out at the Ohio State pro-day and was said to have impressed more than the Buckeye linemen. He certainly tested better — putting up eye-catching numbers including 4.94 forty at 309lbs and a vertical jump of 32.5 inches. He took an official-30 visit to Seattle. He’s a major project with upside, who’ll come in so they can have a good look at him in camp. Based on his testing profile and potential, I had him as a round 6/7 player on my board.
jshawaii22 wrote:Considering the team removed every bit of "Pete" -- I don't see how we could be here after the draft and say, "wow that's just like Pete's drafts" --
I like the draft. Seems we went for good college kids, we haven't been accused by media of reaching or drafting kids who had been injured a lot. We didn't draft a RB, Receiver or a QB. That's sure is different.
After the draft I'm all in with our last pick. Some kid named Michael Jerrell. (if anyone had him in Bob's 3 round, they should be awarded the win)
He's 6' 5" and 295 and plays OT. Now, I read he started out as a basketball star and then added football where he started as a TE and then moved to tacle at some obscure college named Findlay and was named the lineman of the year in some obscure football conference. Good Luck with that.
I think the team sees him as a possible TE. His backstory is pretty interesting.
NorthHawk wrote:First off it was a bad class for RBs this year so and we already have 3 good ones so that should not have been a consideration in this draft. Two years from now I hope they draft a good RB to replace Walker or Charbonnet.
Second is it's another building block draft during a rebuild in the direction of the philosophies of the new coaching staff so on Offense the OL is top priority.
I think we could have used a WR mid round like Luke McCaffrey to take over from Tyler Lockett when he pulls the plug or is not re-signed but next year will provide another crop.
Still concerned about Center...
MackStrongIsMyHero wrote:Not worried yet about Olu. He's a second year player who lost out and then backed up a guy with 24 nfl starts under his belt with 12 of those at C. That's not a knock on Olu. He's on the clock now though. Harris has been in the league since 2020 with not starts. He was also a fifth round pick (like Olu) and a year older than Olu. Harris was on watch lists for the Outland and Remington Trophies while Olu won both. First glance says Olu is the guy.
I don't have a problem with him not being named starter yet either. It's all young guys vying for that spot, so I expect there to be competition, and it's April.
River_Dog wrote: Most of Evan Brown's starts were at guard, and his performance at center for us last season was abysmal. PFF pegged Brown as 27th out of 36 ranked centers, which is about where they had our OL as a whole ranked. So while it's not a knock on Olu to have been a backup in that group, it's still a concern that he wasn't thought highly enough to see more action (he had offensive snaps in just 4 games) than he did given the way our OL and our center in particular were struggling.
I'm still stuck in neutral about Olu. We haven't seen enough of him to get a good read.
River_Dog wrote: Most of Evan Brown's starts were at guard, and his performance at center for us last season was abysmal. PFF pegged Brown as 27th out of 36 ranked centers, which is about where they had our OL as a whole ranked. So while it's not a knock on Olu to have been a backup in that group, it's still a concern that he wasn't thought highly enough to see more action (he had offensive snaps in just 4 games) than he did given the way our OL and our center in particular were struggling.
I'm still stuck in neutral about Olu. We haven't seen enough of him to get a good read.
MackStrongIsMyHero wrote:We’re roughly on the same page, with some differences.
I disagree on it being a concern. Evan had 12 starts at G and 12 at C. The 12 at C were all in his season prior to coming to Seattle, and half is not most. I’m merely stating that it’s no surprise someone with 24 nfl starts with half at C would beat out a rookie. They may very well have gone with experience regardless of Olu’s aptitude.
And I’ll emphasize my yet. I’m not concerned or worried until I see how it shakes out.
MackStrongIsMyHero wrote:I think he’s being painted in too unfavorable a light. He’s a journeyman UDFA that worked his way up to getting significant starting time. It doesn’t really matter that he’s bounced around and wasn’t an established veteran on the Seahawks. Olu had 0 NFL starts. Brown had 24. That’s significant and ample reason to go with Brown over Olu last season. Agree he couldn’t be looked at as a long term solution. He didn’t outplay his one year deal and only got another one year deal from the cards. The brain trust would rather bank on youth potential than sign him again.
I haven’t seen it either; no one has. I think you already said there just wasn’t enough resources to go around to fix everything yet. Have to hope coaching and game plan can make Olu (preferably) or Harris viable. I feel like some are looking at it with gloom and doom when it just is. Got to do the best they can hope it’s enough.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Big hit on Olu was size and strength to handle center at the NFL level. May be these criticisms that dropped him to the 5th round are well founded. Maybe he can't handle the size and speed of NFL defensive linemen. If he can't, he won't make it in the NFL as a C no matter how smart he is how well he knows the position.
MackStrongIsMyHero wrote:Not saying Brown was great or even good. Just that his experience quite possibly got him the start over Olu. Yeah, would have been nice to see a center earlier. It is pretty bad we haven't had stability there since Unger.
Olu definitely needs double teams at the first level. Having Bradford and New Haynes could help with that especially if Olu proves capable of making correct line calls.
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