kalibane wrote:People keep saying that these are isolated incidents. They are not. There is a reason why people got angry in Ferguson. And to add insult to injury when these incidents do make the news the country in general doesn't really care. And a bunch of people make exuses for law enforcement.
These are just the shootings. And just the ones that get caught on camera. Now extrapolate from that how many "justified" shootings were never caught on video. People need to stop acting like these are isolated incidents and that every time Police do something terribly wrong it's caught on tape and/or makes headlines. I'm not going to say it's just the tip of the iceberg and that the vast majority of inappropriate cop behavior isn't known about but it's definitely like a large ship floating on the water... There is a whole lot of ship underneath the surface.
Hawktawk wrote:Ferguson updated. A memorial makeshift shrine to Micheal Brown caught fire and burned. There is no proof of who did it or even if anyone in particular caused it but the rioting and looting has resumed. And this time a female police officer was shot. I wouldn't be surprised if Sharpton had someone burn it down to keep ginning up anger and getting blacks to the polls.
Obama even spent time discussing Brown and Ferguson at the UN while supposedly making the case for war that he wont call war against Islamic fundamentalist terrorists that he wont call Islamist.Now they are beheading in America and its being called workplace violence.
I know, that's a whole nother subject. But votes are being sought over that dead mans body because turning out the base is the only chance for the dems in November and they will stoop to anything to make it happen..
RiverDog wrote:
There are scores of incidents daily in this country where a cop shoots and kills a suspect. We've had several in my community in just the past couple of months. Occasionally, perhaps more often than we want to admit, an unjustified shooting occurs. In addition, unjustified cop shootings is not a 21st century phenomenon. They've been going on for decades, if not centuries. The fact that once in a blue moon an unjustified cop shooting occurs does not surprise me a bit, which might help explain why the country might seem to be a bit indifferent to these incidents. For me, it lost its shock value a long time ago.
There are an estimated 800,000 law enforcement officers in the United States, and like the rest of the population, there is a certain percentage of incompetent, thin skinned, reactionary, and yes, racist individuals amongst their ranks. It is not acceptable to have these incidents occur, but it is understandable. Cops have been placed on hair triggers with all the mass pubic shootings that have occurred in recent years, and you mix that fact in with some of the Tackleberry style cops that percentages tell us are going to slip through the screening process and you have the makings for an unjustified shooting.
The cops I know want their cruisers and bodies equipped with video cameras and audio recorders. They feel it is a great C.Y.A. device and can use them in their own defense.
Hawktawk wrote:Come on RD surely you can recognize a bit of humor regarding the Sharpton comment.Frankly I wouldn't put anything past that snake charmer but he has bigger fish to fry.
Who knows what happened? I assure you the race baiting poverty pimps are not unhappy the memorial burned, anything to keep Ferguson in the press for another month. Yes RD I am convinced the Democratic party will try to exploit it for votes. When the POTUS brings it up at the UN its a shameless attempt to continue to politicize the tragedy.But not one word from POTUS about the cop that just got shot in Ferguson or the others who are being fired on. Not one word about the nut who beheaded a woman in the name of Islam either. Why? It doesn't fit the story they want to tell.
Seahawks4Ever wrote:I see pigeon holing with regards to religion. Just because someone is a Christian doesn't mean they don't believe in evolution (I certainly do) or believe that the Earth is only 6-7 thousand years old ( I certainly do not) yet the knee jerk response when they hear one is a Christian is to assume that I don't believe in evolution and believe the earth is only a few thousand years old.
The same goes for liberal and conservatives. A conservative is considered to be a gun owner, a Christian, and hates the poor.
A liberal is assumed to be an atheist, on public assistance, and hates guns and oh yes, hates America.
There are many more tags I could add but you get the idea.
I try to treat each person as an individual though I admit I am human and I too can lump people together.
c_hawkbob wrote:One can be raised Christian and identify with the morality and social structure of Christianity and even accept a majority of the theology as it pertains to "scripture as parable" (meaning to have a moral to the stories) without buying into the strict interpretation of the mythology as historical fact.
Hawktawk wrote:Here we go again....never mind the facts. We are in a heap of trouble in this nation and it isn't because we have guys who are willing to put their lives on the line every day.
So as the Hands up dont shoot and I cant breathe protests continue officers are beginning to be hunted. It was a predictable outcome of all the political grandstanding from POTUS on down to mayors etc piling on what was a largely false narrative.
I was shocked to watch a cell phone video yesterday that showed Big Mike Brown beating an old black man senseless in the hood while his homies watched. He kicked, punched, stomped and slammed this old guy who was literally less than half his size for several minutes. An accomplice got in on the act by rushing the poor guy and slamming his head into a staircase knocking him out cold. Then Mike Brown reached in his pocket and stole his wallet. The old guy gets up and staggers away barely able to walk doubled over in severe pain.
The video speaks for itself.Mike Brown was a heinous, evil monster who got what he deserved. Hes exactly who officer Wilson described encountering.
The major news outlets who have hidden and refused to air this video owe officer Wilson and the Ferguson PD an apology as does the President and attorney general.I'm not holding my breath though.
c_hawkbob wrote:What if I was to say I stand with the Black Lives Matter protesters AND the Dallas Police Department?
Hawktawk wrote:The shooter told the cops he was upset about the shootings and black lives matter and so he wanted to kill some white people and white cops. OK? BLM protesters are on video shouting death to pigs, pigs in a blanket kill the cops in many of their protests. They are an anarchist organization founded on a complete lie, teddy bear gentle giant Mike Brown.The embers were fanned by none other than the POTUS and AG in an election season. BLM are urban terrorists.
Are there bad cops. Obviously. Are all cops in urban areas dealing with primarily bad people? Its a zillion to one.
There is absolutely no moral equivalency between these two.
Black crime and black on black violence creates an atmosphere of suspicion and fear that punishes upstanding black citizens. Its no different with muslim's being punished as a result of the high number of terrorists coming from their group.
Cops should not be painted with the same brush as terrorists and gangsters because of a microscopic percentage of bad actors among almost a million law enforcement officers nationwide., sorry bob.
So there's a few bad cops but all BLM protesters are murderous thugs? Get real.
Most are just trying to effect the change of holding police to a higher standard for the use of deadly force, and to do more stringent vetting of prospective officers to weed out the head cases before terrible sh!t happens and gets caught on someone's cell phone camera.
c_hawkbob wrote:
So there's a few bad cops but all BLM protesters are murderous thugs? Get real.
It was a peaceful protest until the sniper opened fire, and he was acting of his own accord. I'm not saying there are more than a few bad cops, I don't. I think most are heros that would be willing to take a bullet for you, I'm just saying not everyone that protests the senseless killing we've all seen the videos of is anti cop. Most are just trying to effect the change of holding police to a higher standard for the use of deadly force, and to do more stringent vetting of prospective officers to weed out the head cases before terrible sh!t happens and gets caught on someone's cell phone camera.
Most are just trying to effect the change of holding police to a higher standard for the use of deadly force, and to do more stringent vetting of prospective officers to weed out the head cases before terrible sh!t happens and gets caught on someone's cell phone camera.
c_hawkbob wrote:Stop blaming the cops?
Your reading comprehension is deplorable. The only "blame" I've laid in this entire conversation is on the sniper.
savvyman wrote: There are "more than a few bad cops". Most of them are not hero's - they are people who are trying to survive their shift and do the best they can under many times adverse conditions with little thanks and appreciation from the community. Some of them are truly Hero's. The police force should be paid a respectable wage so that it will attract higher quality candidates. The Police should adopt the "Protect & Serve " code of conduct nationwide. We should demand the halt and the reversal of the Militarization of the Police force that has been on-going for the past 10 years. The Police force needs independent oversight and strong rules and severe penalties for breaking rank and acting in less than a professional manner - no excuses (this is the expectation that comes with good pay). The Police needs the support of citizens in every community and need to be an integrated part of each community.
EmeraldBullet wrote:Savy, I wish you were running for pres instead of who we get to choose from. You seem to be very rational and reasonable in your way of thinking.
burrrton wrote:Savvy, if you think Trump is going to win, may I suggest you get an Rx for antidepressants before November?
I've been wrong many times, but in this case I think Trump will lose at least 40 states. Hillary is as bad a candidate as has *ever* run for major office, almost at any level, let alone POTUS... except for who will apparently be her opponent.
This country's lost its fcking mind, and the damage from the last 8 years will be nothing compared to another 4 years of one of these boobs.
The MSM have thrown the Kitchen sink at Trump for the past 3 months and he is still very close to Clinton
burrrton wrote:
This isn't to defend that criminal c*nt,
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