kalibane wrote:I'm not doing anything but sharing my interpretation as you asked. I know they were in response but to a direct question about Frank Clark but I think his words were as strong as they were due to the overall climate around domestic violence.
Had the Ray Rice story never dominated the landscape of the NFL last year I don't think his answer would be anywhere near that strong, thus he overplayed his hand. I'm not saying these are the facts, but that's my read on things.
SalmonBB wrote:Another difference between Hardy and Clark: one seems to be on the right path provided his second chance, while the other does not. Whatever you think about second chances, there seems a huge difference between the two in what they have chosen to do with theirs.
Count me as a fan of Clark.
GO SEAHAWKS!!!
NorthHawk wrote:Here's all anyone needs to know about the difference in attitude between Clark and Hardy.
From PFT:
"Via Jimmy Kempski of PhillyVoice.com, Hardy changed his Twitter bio to say this: “Innocent until proven guilty-lack of knowledge & information is just ignorance-the unjust/prejudicial treatment of diff categories of people is discrimination.”"
He's in denial and he needs some help is all I can say.
NorthHawk wrote:I think it points out he just doesn't get it at all.
He even thinks that buying off the witness equals innocence.
NorthHawk wrote:Is he on probation?
His record has been expunged, so I think he's just like you and me in his freedoms.
kalibane wrote:Well good enough to get the bench trial set aside I'm not sure that takes a ton of skill. They had no choice to expunge his record once the accuser disappeared so what he really had was a good bank account.
RiverDog wrote:The victim might be better off by doing what she did, ie take the money and run. It spares her of appearing in court, having her character attacked by a defense attorney and she may not have wanted the publicity. In many respects, I can sympathize with her. Without knowing how much money she received or if there was any permanent physical or psychological injuries to her, how much money she received and what she does with it, this settlement might be the best thing that ever happened to her.
The only problem is that it could enable a real animal and put another woman at risk. It would be a pretty tough choice for a person to make.
EmeraldBullet wrote:Money is one thing that many people cannot pass up. I bet she regrets this later in life. Though I do agree she got to avoid a lot of things I'm sure she didn't want made public and on record forever. It's still upsetting to me though because I would bet money that Hardy does do this again, even if he never gets called out for it.
RiverDog wrote:
Hard to say. Not knowing what her financial situation was or what the payoff was, we really can't pass judgment on her decision.
Paying off victims is, sadly, a way of life in a democratic, capitalistic society. It's one of the prices we have to pay for having so many of the other freedoms that we cherish.
EmeraldBullet wrote:My point is that no matter what her financial situation was, and how much the payoff was, generally most victims will come to regret taking the money. Sticking with your values transcends your financial situation. By taking the money you in sorts become a permanent victim. She made her choice and she will have to live with it, so it is what it is. Just saying most people that made her decision come to regret it. It really has nothing to do with the other freedoms that we cherish at all...
NorthHawk wrote:Unfortunately, if Hardy didn't have any money and was innocent, he probably would have ended up in jail for 25 years.
That's a failing of the system as it currently is as well.
Hawktawk wrote:Hardys victim said something I found interesting in her police interview. She said"THIS IS THE TIME, hes going to kill me" IMO she was inferring that it wasn't the first time he had been violent or threatening. So I wonder if there is a component of fear coupled with financial reward that kept her out of court.
Either way, if there's a dude who needs his head knocked sideways its this dirt bag. Its poetic justice the Cowboys are an O fer with him in the lineup. karma.
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