Eaglehawk wrote:Damn close to perfect as far as I can tell.
Some drops int's due to the weather from last game, and tackling other than that I see this defense making it possible for us to play the best offense in New York.
I see the SB as:
Seattle v. Denver. Best defense vs. best offense.
If my memory serves me right, #1Def vs. #1 Off. has happened twice before Giants/Bills,1991 and SF/Miami 1985. in both cases the best defense won.
But first things first: We need to humble a certain Superman kissing-his-biceps QB and his friends in our house.
RiverDog wrote:Eaglehawk wrote:Damn close to perfect as far as I can tell.
Some drops int's due to the weather from last game, and tackling other than that I see this defense making it possible for us to play the best offense in New York.
I see the SB as:
Seattle v. Denver. Best defense vs. best offense.
If my memory serves me right, #1Def vs. #1 Off. has happened twice before Giants/Bills,1991 and SF/Miami 1985. in both cases the best defense won.
But first things first: We need to humble a certain Superman kissing-his-biceps QB and his friends in our house.
The game's changed. The old adage that offense sells tickets and defense wins championships no longer applies. As a rule, it's the offense that wins the day when you get to this point in the season. There are exceptions, like the 2000 Ravens and the 2003 Bucs, but as a rule, it's been the teams with the big guns that win the SB. Heck, I think the Giants or Packers won it one year with the 32nd ranked defense.
RiverDog wrote:Eaglehawk wrote:Damn close to perfect as far as I can tell.
Some drops int's due to the weather from last game, and tackling other than that I see this defense making it possible for us to play the best offense in New York.
I see the SB as:
Seattle v. Denver. Best defense vs. best offense.
If my memory serves me right, #1Def vs. #1 Off. has happened twice before Giants/Bills,1991 and SF/Miami 1985. in both cases the best defense won.
But first things first: We need to humble a certain Superman kissing-his-biceps QB and his friends in our house.
The game's changed. The old adage that offense sells tickets and defense wins championships no longer applies. As a rule, it's the offense that wins the day when you get to this point in the season. There are exceptions, like the 2000 Ravens and the 2003 Bucs, but as a rule, it's been the teams with the big guns that win the SB. Heck, I think the Giants or Packers won it one year with the 32nd ranked defense.
PasadenaHawk wrote:RiverDog wrote:Eaglehawk wrote:Damn close to perfect as far as I can tell.
Some drops int's due to the weather from last game, and tackling other than that I see this defense making it possible for us to play the best offense in New York.
I see the SB as:
Seattle v. Denver. Best defense vs. best offense.
If my memory serves me right, #1Def vs. #1 Off. has happened twice before Giants/Bills,1991 and SF/Miami 1985. in both cases the best defense won.
But first things first: We need to humble a certain Superman kissing-his-biceps QB and his friends in our house.
The game's changed. The old adage that offense sells tickets and defense wins championships no longer applies. As a rule, it's the offense that wins the day when you get to this point in the season. There are exceptions, like the 2000 Ravens and the 2003 Bucs, but as a rule, it's been the teams with the big guns that win the SB. Heck, I think the Giants or Packers won it one year with the 32nd ranked defense.
So what you are saying is neither SF or Seattle has any hope of winning the SB this year, since their great defenses will loose to either Denver or NE and their great offenses?
PasadenaHawk wrote:Thanks for the clarification! I agree with you. This will likely be the year it turns around. As you said, we haven't seen this great of a D (Seattle or SF) in years. In my opinion, Seattle D is better than the Raven D was, but that's coming from a Seahawk fan. I've just never seen anything like it.
Eaglehawk wrote:Gotta check them out Steady! Sounds like something I would get a kick out of reading.
I tried to hang there a couple of times, but they ban you in a heartbeat if you so much as throw sarcastic remarks at them. HAha.
For being so evil "I hope RW breaks his leg", "I want to punch Sherman in the mouth", " I hope we physically hurt someone on that field today", the Mods on there are Extremely THIN SKINNED.
I'm still at the 49er zone but I throw a few pot shots at them, then leave. Seems to work.
Distant Relative wrote:Eaglehawk wrote:Gotta check them out Steady! Sounds like something I would get a kick out of reading.
I tried to hang there a couple of times, but they ban you in a heartbeat if you so much as throw sarcastic remarks at them. HAha.
For being so evil "I hope RW breaks his leg", "I want to punch Sherman in the mouth", " I hope we physically hurt someone on that field today", the Mods on there are Extremely THIN SKINNED.
I'm still at the 49er zone but I throw a few pot shots at them, then leave. Seems to work.
I'm still at the 49er zone but I throw a few pot shots at them, then leave. Seems to work.
So how is the pot in China any way?
RiverDog wrote:PasadenaHawk wrote:Thanks for the clarification! I agree with you. This will likely be the year it turns around. As you said, we haven't seen this great of a D (Seattle or SF) in years. In my opinion, Seattle D is better than the Raven D was, but that's coming from a Seahawk fan. I've just never seen anything like it.
I like to think of myself as being an objective, non homer type of guy, but I don't think there's any question that this Seahawk D is the best defense to come along since the Ravens in 2000. We do have some have lapses, like the first half against teams like the Texans and Bucs, but they adjust almost organically. I was quite impressed at how we surrendered 200 yards rushing against the Rams in our first matchup then completely shut them down in the second.
The one thing that causes me some concern is that the Niners have been here before and know what to expect from the crowd. The one thing about blowout losses is that you have an opportunity to learn more from your mistakes. It's like my place of work, as I tell frustrated co workers when we're broke down or out of grade that it forces us to learn more about our plant and our operation and makes us stronger in the long run. I think we saw that play out in the Saints game. I predicted that we'd beat the Saints 23-10, which was pretty darn close as we had them 23-8 with a couple minutes to go. Had we not played the Saints last month, IMO we would have blown them out last Sunday.
I think Sunday's game is going to be a lot like last weekend's game vs. the Saints and our last game in SF vs. the Niners. These two teams know each other well, and know the environment they're going to be subjected to. I don't think we're going to roll up 40 on them. IMO the over/under will stay in the 40 point TOTAL region.
Eaglehawk wrote:Damn close to perfect as far as I can tell.
Some drops int's due to the weather from last game, and tackling other than that I see this defense making it possible for us to play the best offense in New York.
I see the SB as:
Seattle v. Denver. Best defense vs. best offense.
If my memory serves me right, #1Def vs. #1 Off. has happened twice before Giants/Bills,1991 and SF/Miami 1985. in both cases the best defense won.
But first things first: We need to humble a certain Superman kissing-his-biceps QB and his friends in our house.
RiverDog wrote:Eaglehawk wrote:Damn close to perfect as far as I can tell.
Some drops int's due to the weather from last game, and tackling other than that I see this defense making it possible for us to play the best offense in New York.
I see the SB as:
Seattle v. Denver. Best defense vs. best offense.
If my memory serves me right, #1Def vs. #1 Off. has happened twice before Giants/Bills,1991 and SF/Miami 1985. in both cases the best defense won.
But first things first: We need to humble a certain Superman kissing-his-biceps QB and his friends in our house.
The game's changed. The old adage that offense sells tickets and defense wins championships no longer applies. As a rule, it's the offense that wins the day when you get to this point in the season. There are exceptions, like the 2000 Ravens and the 2003 Bucs, but as a rule, it's been the teams with the big guns that win the SB. Heck, I think the Giants or Packers won it one year with the 32nd ranked defense.
monkey wrote:RiverDog wrote:Eaglehawk wrote:Damn close to perfect as far as I can tell.
Some drops int's due to the weather from last game, and tackling other than that I see this defense making it possible for us to play the best offense in New York.
I see the SB as:
Seattle v. Denver. Best defense vs. best offense.
If my memory serves me right, #1Def vs. #1 Off. has happened twice before Giants/Bills,1991 and SF/Miami 1985. in both cases the best defense won.
But first things first: We need to humble a certain Superman kissing-his-biceps QB and his friends in our house.
The game's changed. The old adage that offense sells tickets and defense wins championships no longer applies. As a rule, it's the offense that wins the day when you get to this point in the season. There are exceptions, like the 2000 Ravens and the 2003 Bucs, but as a rule, it's been the teams with the big guns that win the SB. Heck, I think the Giants or Packers won it one year with the 32nd ranked defense.
Except that, The Saints had a highly ranked defense, and won a playoff game by running the ball.
The Panthers had a top 5 defense, and ran the ball.
The Niners have a top ranked defense and run the ball.
The Seahawks have the best defense in football, and run the ball.
The Patriots have a good defense, and won a playoff game by running the ball.
Even Denver played defense and ran the ball last game better than they had most of the year, which is how they beat San Diego.
In fact the best division, the NFC West, had four teams that each played terrific defense, and could run the ball.
If the game has changed, this year it changed right back! This year was all about defense and a run game.
Seems to me that the game hasn't changed that much really...
monkey wrote:RiverDog wrote:Eaglehawk wrote:Damn close to perfect as far as I can tell.
Some drops int's due to the weather from last game, and tackling other than that I see this defense making it possible for us to play the best offense in New York.
I see the SB as:
Seattle v. Denver. Best defense vs. best offense.
If my memory serves me right, #1Def vs. #1 Off. has happened twice before Giants/Bills,1991 and SF/Miami 1985. in both cases the best defense won.
But first things first: We need to humble a certain Superman kissing-his-biceps QB and his friends in our house.
The game's changed. The old adage that offense sells tickets and defense wins championships no longer applies. As a rule, it's the offense that wins the day when you get to this point in the season. There are exceptions, like the 2000 Ravens and the 2003 Bucs, but as a rule, it's been the teams with the big guns that win the SB. Heck, I think the Giants or Packers won it one year with the 32nd ranked defense.
Except that, The Saints had a highly ranked defense, and won a playoff game by running the ball.
The Panthers had a top 5 defense, and ran the ball.
The Niners have a top ranked defense and run the ball.
The Seahawks have the best defense in football, and run the ball.
The Patriots have a good defense, and won a playoff game by running the ball.
Even Denver played defense and ran the ball last game better than they had most of the year, which is how they beat San Diego.
In fact the best division, the NFC West, had four teams that each played terrific defense, and could run the ball.
If the game has changed, this year it changed right back! This year was all about defense and a run game.
Seems to me that the game hasn't changed that much really...
NorthHawk wrote:Each of those except Seattle also has a passing attack that keeps the opposing Defenses honest.
That's the key.
HawkWow wrote:We sometimes forget "only 3 things can happen when you pass and 2 of them are bad". I forget who said that, but running the ball while stopping the run wins football games.
Seahawks4Ever wrote:The Seahawks #1 defense will have K.J. Wright back for this game and that is way more huge than not having PH. I am surprised that none of the pundits have even mentioned it. K.J. completes our defense!
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