But neither did the offensive linemen suddenly learn how to hold their blocks.
burrrton wrote:
Er, I think that's precisely what happened (along with getting the calls correct, working together properly, etc).
Perhaps 99% is over the top, though. RW was doing some uncharacteristic things early on that can't fairly be laid at the line's feet.
Hawk Sista wrote:I think it is a chicken and egg kind of debate, really. Or more like you can't separate the fruit from the yogurt once it's been mixed.
RW was uncharacteristic indeed, and the line was the worst it's been since his arrival (or ever). He had zero trust of them and they had to hold blocks longer to account for him scrambling around trying to make something of nothing. One thing beget the other. But still, looking at Wilson's historical #s, if I had to choose a single place to lay the blame it would be at the feet of the line. That said, there is NEVER a singular place to lay the blame for any loss or stretch of sketchy play.
a progression that was not possible with him running for his life every play.
HumanCockroach wrote:a progression that was not possible with him running for his life every play.
And statement like this is why people have a hard time accepting that not everything was the lines performance. It simply isn't accurate.
Hawktawk wrote:Russ wasn't as effective earlier this year. It was a combination of factors including defenses adjusting to take his running lanes away coupled with an atrocious performance by a patchwork line with 3 guys either new or in different positions. Nowak COULDNT SNAP THE FRIGGING BALL or block. Cripes if Wilson weren't a baseball player with incredible hand eye coordination there would have been twice the turnovers with the way the snaps were. After the line changes it took time to gel. And Lynch was not himself this season either. He had one decent statistical game all season and his yards per carry was a career low 3.8. One other factor that gets little discussion is the Superbowl hangover factor. Russ wasn't trusting himself on the quick short throws in the middle for a while. The defense wasn't trusting in themselves either. Lots of teams would have folded the tent this year after something like that.
AZ was the rock bottom.Its easy to forget what Clete Blakemans crew did to Seattle that night treating them like chumps instead of champs and creating first and 20 on most first half drives and extending virtually every AZ scoring drive with multiple penalties on all pro players.
Blocks got missed, passes were dropped.But after that one pretty much everyone was piling on Russell including myself. Coaches were grumbling, Lynches agent sent his "get your head out" text.Dump Ciara movement was in full swing.....
Then Boom!!!! An NFL historic offensive streak and complete rewriting of the Seahawks record book. Its a truly amazing transformation.Russ is the best QB in the NFL right now.If he stays on this pace hes going to be the SB MVP. Newton can have the regular season award.
Hawktawk wrote:Well maybe so RD.I saw a lot of double clutching like Russ just wasn't trusting something earlier in the year. Its straightened out now obviously in historical fashion. Whatever it was Ill take it
. Wildcard or no this battle scarred veteran playoff team has made it back into the tournament. I'm old enough to remember 86 and perhaps the hottest Hawks team ever at seasons end missing the playoffs on the umpteenth tiebreaker. I watched a Superbowl win by the Giants over the donkeys with full knowledge my Hawks had beaten both teams in the regular season and had absolutely thrashed the Broncs a month earlier.
Ill take this.Its setting up real interesting. There are two teams alive in the NFC with players who know what its like to win a game and go to the Superbowl,Seattle and Green Bay. Seattle is a much more cohesive team than GB right now. Will I be shaking in my boots if we are playing in AZ or Carolina? Not at all. Seattle SHOULD be 2-0 vs them and is playing twice as well as when they lost those 2 games. Seattle has played some of their best ball on the road this year. Lombardi's shine just as bright no matter how you get them.
Hawktawk wrote:Its always an interesting perspective to revisit some of the threads. Although Russ was not nearly as effective as the past 5 weeks I have a hard time criticizing him much. The protection was deplorable and the center couldn't snap to boot.The Rams rag dolled him, hit him 13 times, sacked him 4. We are lucky he's vertical after that pounding. 289 yards and 2 TDs isn't that bad considering. The single season TD record is 32? by Krieg in 84.Ill look it up. Depending on the situation with Carolina playing early it will be interesting to see if Russ has a chance to get that. If they win over Tampa I could see both Seattle and AZ emptying the bench.
Hawktawk wrote:Its always an interesting perspective to revisit some of the threads. Although Russ was not nearly as effective as the past 5 weeks I have a hard time criticizing him much. The protection was deplorable and the center couldn't snap to boot.The Rams rag dolled him, hit him 13 times, sacked him 4. We are lucky he's vertical after that pounding. 289 yards and 2 TDs isn't that bad considering. The single season TD record is 32? by Krieg in 84.Ill look it up. Depending on the situation with Carolina playing early it will be interesting to see if Russ has a chance to get that. If they win over Tampa I could see both Seattle and AZ emptying the bench.
mykc14 wrote:
Yep Russ needs 2 TDs to break the record. As far as resting their players I don't see the hawks doing it. They need to win to hold that 5 seed, a loss and they are guaranteed the 6th. If the Vikes win we are the 6th seed no matter what. So he hawks have plenty to play for. With that being said the 6th seed wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Redskins look pretty good. Either way I would want to delay playing the cards as long as possible, so I'm definitely rooting for Carolina. Also would rather not have to play in GB, but the pack have looked rather ordinary the past 6 or 7 weeks.
The Reason a lot media people don't put him in the top tier of QB's is he is a great field general, not a thrower. He wins, and a lot of the time when he wins he is not throwing for 400+ yards.
obiken wrote:I am just saying he is a top tier QB, like Bob Griese he is a field general that wins, but not always with Tom Brady type stats.
Hawktawk wrote:I'm not sure when GB and Minn play. If it's flexed to prime time Seattle may take the field not knowing if they have a shot at the 5 seed. AZ will already know if they can claim HFA when they kick off. So it could be Drew Stanton vs Tavares Jackson. I say rest anyone that's hurting. Green Bay is pedestrian. Vikes looked unstoppable. Carolina lost to a bad team. AZ looks incredible. Who knows? I get extra games for the 4th year in a row. I still think we got a shot no
Matter who we play.
HumanCockroach wrote:
Not sure if this is accurate or what, but Damn impressive just to be in the top ten, much less number 1 All time.
Edit: Hell I can never get a photo to post... Basically, Wilson had become the number one rated QB in postseason history according to the tweet I attempted to "grab" and paste in ahead of Bart Star, Rodgers, Montana and like 20 something p points ahead of Brady.... Oh well. And No RD I don't care about "periods" as he is ranked above several contemporary first ballot HOF QBs like Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Manning...
HumanCockroach wrote:
Not sure if this is accurate or what, but Damn impressive just to be in the top ten, much less number 1 All time.
Edit: Hell I can never get a photo to post... Basically, Wilson had become the number one rated QB in postseason history according to the tweet I attempted to "grab" and paste in ahead of Bart Star, Rodgers, Montana and like 20 something p points ahead of Brady.... Oh well. And No RD I don't care about "periods" as he is ranked above several contemporary first ballot HOF QBs like Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Manning...
HumanCockroach wrote:
Not sure if this is accurate or what, but Damn impressive just to be in the top ten, much less number 1 All time.
Edit: Hell I can never get a photo to post... Basically, Wilson had become the number one rated QB in postseason history according to the tweet I attempted to "grab" and paste in ahead of Bart Star, Rodgers, Montana and like 20 something p points ahead of Brady.... Oh well. And No RD I don't care about "periods" as he is ranked above several contemporary first ballot HOF QBs like Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Manning...
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