Old but Slow wrote:The alternative is to cede land to the states, who likely will not be able to afford to support them, thus sell them as private property. Sounds like a bad idea to sell the land to exploiters.
EmeraldBullet wrote:The part I don't understand is that the two guys already served their time and then the judge gave them more. Isn't that Double Jeopardy and in Direct Violation of the Constitution?
c_hawkbob wrote:Without eminent domain we would have no railroads, highways or national parks. Using it as your justification for taking up arms against your country just doesn't fly. There are other means of recourse (our court system). This isn't the 18th century.
Old but Slow wrote:I would hate to see what private ownership would do to Yosemite or Yellowstone. Or the Olympic National Forest, or the Enchantments.
EmeraldBullet wrote:I'm going to open carry tomorrow.
EmeraldBullet wrote:That is a well written letter, and it makes some really good points as well. I am a strong supporter of LOCAL government, as long as they are protecting the citizens of their jurisdiction. I feel the Feds are ruining the country to support their own greedy habits. Thanks for posting this HT and keeping us up to date on this issue.
Seahawks4Ever wrote:Those federal lands belong to EVERYONE not just a few greedy pukes who want to use land that is not theirs to put money in to their own pockets.
There is a movement to give all of the land that is held in public trust by the federal government to the states in which that land resides. The states would then sell off as much of that land and of course the mineral rights to the highest bidders. The states would squander that money and ALL of this nation's taxpayers would get royally SCREWED.
Do you really think that the people who want this land for dirt cheap have the public good in mind??? If you do, you are a FOOL.
It is popular to condemn the federal government yet when some disaster happens everyone cries to the federal government for help. The feds are NOT the enemy, greedy rich bastards who want something for next to nothing are the enemies.
Since when is being a TRAITOR cool?? I say we tar and feather traitors just like in the old days.
obiken wrote:Most federal land should be given to the states to manage. The Govt closest to its citizens is less tyrannical than the govt far away. John Adams.
Hawktown wrote:If that is the case that he charged the police or pulled a weapon, then that is on the dead dude but if he was unarmed, I would still take out a knee cap instead of shooting him in the face. That is BS in and of itself. If it was a local cop, he/she was just a pawn in this whole thing anyway. Even if they were not a local officer, I bet they were still a pawn.
I know that you guys do not agree but there is so many cases just like this happening all around the country and if groups of people want to stand up to the "authorities" for these type of specific cases, I fully support them and cannot for the life of me figure out why NO ONE gives a s*** that the GOV is FAR overstepping their boundaries. This case just happened to make big headlines because of the standoff.
The government/corporations do not want us to farm or ranch for ourselves. They want us to keep going to the super market and keep SPENDING so they will go to ANY LENGTH NEEDED to make sure that happens and only 1 or 2 corporations OWN YOUR FOOD SUPPLY. Along with this fact is that they want us all in tight neighborhoods and apartments.
Sorry not yelling with the caps, just emphasizing.
It seems that a lot of people need to go back and read the original story about the family because the cause is all lost due to the occupation and people automatically just writing them off as wack jobs and such when according to them they are following their civil duties to uphold the constitution where all else just want to let it go by the way side without considering the ramifications.
c_hawkbob wrote:I don't for a second believe the guy that was shot came out of his vehicle with his hands in the air and they just decided to shoot him.
Even if that was their bent this is way too high a profile case for that. It plays entirely into the hand of the radical occupationists. Remember this is the guy that said a month ago that he'd rather die than be detained. This is exactly the outcome they wanted and the officials were trying to avoid. The last thing they need is another Waco or Ruby Ridge and everyone on both sides knew it.
I can't imagine that there were not dash cams and/or body cams that will eventually be released and we'll see for our selves.
And as far as taking out a knee cap goes, he can still fire off rounds or toss a hand grenade towards them.
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