RiverDog wrote:One of my buddies, a former poster at the PI and once in a blue moon here, thinks and hopes that assuming we hold onto the pick, that we'll take Ryan Kelly, a center out of Alabama with our #26 overall.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/ ... id=2555191
After doing some homework, I agree with my buddy, I think he'd be an excellent fit here. I love the bio on him, and I don't think that our brain trust is married to Patrick Lewis, that there's a reason why he couldn't beat out a first year center at the start of last season. At the very least, he'd add some depth in an area where we sorely need depth. He's supposedly pro ready, could be a starter by mid season.
Thoughts?
obiken wrote:IF we could, I should have added the caveat, Human. The problem is the 10 million dollar salary. How do we go around that?
obiken wrote:IF we could, I should have added the caveat, Human. The problem is the 10 million dollar salary. How do we go around that?
c_hawkbob wrote:31 is not that old for an offensive lineman, and he's never missed a snap in his career, what makes you think he's gonna suddenly get brittle now?
NorthHawk wrote:
Age and a more physically demanding scheme.
monkey wrote:I'd rather see us get a veteran center than LT.
The way Russell Wilson plays, we should be focusing on building up the interior of the o-line IMO.
Russell is elusive enough that he can deal with edge pressure, where he gets into trouble is pressure up the middle, (see Carolina playoff game). He was really making progress in his willingness to step up into the pocket and make throws, over the last half of the regular season, I'd like to see that trend continue by adding better players inside the tackles, like the Saints did for Brees, whose game Wilson patterns his after, and who is also short.
If we're going to overspend on an O-lineman, I'd rather it was the guy making the line calls in the middle.
Gilliam will do just fine at LT, but Britt at LG and Lewis at center though...yikes. Those two stink out loud.
monkey wrote:Exactly. The ZBS is a scheme that really calls for a very specific type of blocker, one which I'm not sure Thomas would fit or not. He might, I don't know, but I'd be willing to guess that if he did, Cable would have already been pushing John and Pete to go get him.
It's not like they aren't aware that Thomas might be available, they know! They know and have decided not to pursue him, (at least so far) maybe because of his cost, maybe because they don't see him as a ZBS fit.
RiverDog wrote:
So how was it that Cable thought that James Carpenter was a good enough fit as an OT in his ZBS that he dedicated a #1 draft choice to acquire him?
I doubt that the reason we aren't going aggressively for Thomas is because they don't see him as being a good ZBS fit. What is it about Thomas's lack of skills that's different than those we've had play the position in the past?
Oly wrote: (I am thinking they might be saving some cap room to pick up a June cut).
c_hawkbob wrote:"Joe Thomas" and "lack of skills" are ludicrous in the same sentence.
He's the closest thing to another Walter Jones we're likely to see this generation. Walt could have played in any scheme and I believe the same to be true of Thomas. He's always done everything he's been asked, to assume he can't do a thing that he's not yet been asked to do makes little sense to me.
jshawaii22 wrote:I'd cut Browner... is his $785,000 enough?.. ha ha -- sorry, Just my opinion.
I thought we had 6 million last week, but that might of been before we signed all the restricted FA's. Not sure, but I'd find it if Thomas was an option.
HumanCockroach wrote:I didn't say one thing or another, I simply provided a link. Not sure what you are responding to. No where in this thread have I said a single thing negative about Thomas. I simply pointed out his cost doesn't work, he is older, and no one knows how long he has left. That includes you Bob.
monkey wrote:I doubt that the reason we aren't going aggressively for Thomas is because they don't see him as being a good ZBS fit. What is it about Thomas's lack of skills that's different than those we've had play the position in the past?
he's a pretty good guard now...after he was nearly washed up and got beat out by a journeyman and wasn't even on the active roster for some games in our 2013 SB year.
.That's not what Carpenter's head coach in college... Nick Saban, a guy that's seen a pro tackle or two..had to say about Carpenter
And it's not what Carpenter showed at the position as he was absolutely one of the worst OT's I've ever seen don a Hawk's uniform
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