Largent80 wrote:With all the new draft picks (even last years) , this new squad doesn't even know or care about XLIX.
I'm tired of hearing about the last play and want the entire thing buried.
It's past time to move on.
Uppercut wrote:Why does no one point out the SF/Balt SB. If I recall SF could have won that game but Kap tried to throw a pass on 4th down last play of the game which failed. He probably could have run it in.
Because this is a Seahawks message board. I imagine it's still quite the bone of contention on Niners boards.
Uppercut wrote:I was not referring to this board, I should have clarified better my confusion is with the media mainly as they seem to be the ones that keep it going
Uppercut wrote:Why does no one point out the SF/Balt SB. If I recall SF could have won that game but Kap tried to throw a pass on 4th down last play of the game which failed. He probably could have run it in.
With all the new draft picks (even last years) , this new squad doesn't even know or care about XLIX.
I'm tired of hearing about the last play and want the entire thing buried.
It's past time to move on.
NorthHawk wrote:I see that they now want to move Ifedi to RT and Glowinski to RG. Add in Joeckel when he heals and there is a lot of uncertainty on the OL again this year.
They have to settle on positions and let the players get into a comfort zone with the guy next to him. If they never get comfortable with what the guy next to him is going to do in most situations, they don't have a hope in hell of working to their maximum as a group. It's the only group in Football where 5 guys have to work in unison to be effective. Add in they are facing better athletes on the DL and teamwork is even more important. They have to get the positions settled soon.
NorthHawk wrote:It's like they have ADD with all of the changes up front each year. Why they can't let a player learn one position in what people say is one of the most complex blocking schemes is beyond me.
We haven't had a real good OL in this regime's tenure even with all of the picks and FA's, so I doubt they really know how to build one.
NorthHawk wrote:But if their grand plan is to have an inexpensive OL by using draft picks and converted DL and then not re-sign them after their first contract, it's not really Cable's fault.
The problem with our OL philosophy as it looks to be is the following and I'm sure there are more than 3 :
1) Inexperience all along the OL resulting from not re-signing players trained in our system
2) Complex Hybrid OL scheme requiring both intelligence and athleticsm
3) Lack of great athletes coming from College playing OL thereby lessening the pool from which to select.
Combine inexperience with a steep learning curve (1 and 2) and you have players that cannot develop quickly in that system.
It might be why we see Carpenter for one going to the Jets and playing well. We'll see how Sweezy does in TB.
One solution might be to simplify the blocking scheme so the younger players can develop faster and produce early in their careers.
This would deepen the pool of prospective linemen that would fit our system and if Cable leaves for another team, other OL coaches could quickly pick up where he left off.
I thought it was the Matador scheme.
Ole, Ole, OLE !!!!!!
NorthHawk wrote:It looks like that's the plan.
Breno: FA not really pursued
Carpenter: FA not really pursued
Okung: FA not really pursued
Sweezy: TB overpaid for him
It may have just been a coincidental numbers game, but it sure looks like a pattern.
Old but Slow wrote:It takes time to mold a line (I'm sure there's a joke in there), and this group that was terrible last season are all good athletes with promise. They are learning to communicate with each other and to coordinate, which is essential. If four of the five improve, they become a different entity. My hope is that Pocic is a prime backup this year, and is not needed as a starter. His versatility, intelligence, and skills make him ideal to sub into the line in any position without a huge loss. Perfect addition in my view.
In addition, I hope that Joeckel is not needed, and that Abouji (sorry about the name spelling) is a valuable backup. Generally glass half full, in my view of things, I am seeing a much improved offensive line with mostly the same personnel. I was upset when they signed the 2 dumbos last year, but I am thinking that they have learned from that.
There is one position to fill, as our RT signed with SF (what was he thinking?). Glowinski will move from LG to RG, where he played in college, with Ifedi moving out a spot to RT, which makes sense, and we can assume that Britt will be the center, so the question goes naturally to LG and LT. Fant is the incumbent LT and though inexperienced, is ideally athletic, and coachable. Joeckel is a high upside player who has underperformed, but is still young enough to make an impact, and Odhiambo is a player the team has expressed some confidence in, which puts him in the conversation.
So, unlike you fair weather fans (j/k), I see this offensive line as a developing strength.
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