Seahawks4Ever wrote:RD; Explain to me your definition of "healthy" . Do you mean healthy body and mind, or just healthy body?? D.J.T. does not have a healthy mind, many high in the GOP have said he is "unhinged". I don't know about you, but I don't consider someone who is considered unhinged as being suitable for the office of POTUS. No less than 50 Republican members of congress signed an open letter in August of 2016 stating that Trump was UNFIT to be POTUS. They, of course, mostly caved in to McConnell and Ryan and ended up endorsing Trump. That doesn't mean they weren't correct in their original assessment of the man.
So, invoking the 25th Amendment very well may be appropriate in the future. But, do we really want VP Pence to be the 46(edit) POTUS??? He totally bungled the vetting process during the transition and now as been blatantly lying about what he knew or didn't know when he SHOULD have known.
Pundits keep saying that people like Sean Spicer, Mc Masters, or Sarah Huckabee are only doing "their jobs" when they lie for Trump and they should not be "blamed". What a crock of B.S. They do NOT have to tell lies, when they are asked to tell an untruth they should either refuse and/or resign. I would have much more respect for a Spicer if he would have submitted his resignation after the first time it was obvious Trump wanted him to tell a lie. Oh, that would have been the first day on the job when Trump told him to claim his inauguration crowds were the largest in "history". Well, maybe Sean cold have drawn the line on the second lie. Lets see, that would have Sean to his third day on the job. But I as well as many many other people would respect him rather that deride him.
Seahawks4Ever wrote:Anyone who voted for Trump SHOULD be ashamed of themselves.....
Rash .impulsive, prone to fits of rage, unable to accept any responsibility for his mistakes, compulsively tweeting despite knowing it hurts him, groping women and other high risk behaviors are not normal things.
For all her issues and perceived liberal policies Hillary was the only first lady to be elected to public office as a US Senator and also served as a secretary of state.
The point I tried to make is that politician is more than a name. It has a job description that requires a certain skill set to get anything done. It demands maturity and a certain amount of decorum, an ability to reach across the aisle in certain situations.
Seahawks4Ever wrote:HRC was NOT picked by Obama to be Sec. Of State because she was the former first lady. I can understand not wanting to support someone because of their politics or that their character may be more than one can stomach. But irrational hate is just that, irrational.
I don't "hate" Trump, I just do not think he is fit to BE the POTUS and EVERYTHING that has happened since Jan. 20th. bears that out.
There is not one POTUS that has kept all or even most of their campaign promises. But, DJT ran as a "populist" Republican candidate yet he apparently LIED when he said he wouldn't touch Social Security, Medi-Care, Medic-Aid. etc... His budget, set to be announced tomorrow proposes to cut 1.7 TRILLION dollars from these programs. It would be one thing if the 800 BILLION set to be cut from Medic-Aid was to be used to help balance the budget, but NOOOOO. it is slated to used to give the uber wealthy, the top 2% an 800 BILLION $ TAX CUT. Neither the Reagan nor the Bush (43) tax cuts also mostly for the top few percent led to massive creation of jobs that paid enough where one could raise a family on. It is a huge MYTH that tax cuts for the rich lead to growth of family wage jobs. No, what the wealthy do is go out and start buying out other companies, consolidating the work forces leading to massive LAY OFFS.
HRC was NOT picked by Obama to be Sec. Of State because she was the former first lady.
I can understand not wanting to support someone because of their politics or that their character may be more than one can stomach. But irrational hate is just that, irrational.
NorthHawk wrote:I heard someone on the radio the other day saying the lessen learned as follows (paraphrased):
When faced with a choice between a crook and a moron choose the crook as they can be reined in, but a moron will always be a moron.
vahawker wrote:Sad we essentially had the choice between the most horrific candidates ever. I wonder how many Never Trump votes Hillary got and how Never Hillary votes Trump got. Tired of being relegated to voting against someone instead of actually be enthusiastic to vote FOR someone.(I voted for neither) Are we so lost that there are no leaders or statesmen left? Or are we so fractured that someone like that has no chance? I have seen any recently.
Hawktawk wrote:Its been worse than even I imagined....
RiverDog wrote:
It must have been a pretty tame imagination as World War 3 hasn't started yet, unemployment is at a 10 year low, and my 401K has increased 7% in 4 months since Trump took office.
But most self centered low information American drive by voters don't care which is how we got where we are.
Hawktawk wrote:Ahhh yes RD. And therein lies the conundrum. Economy is good. 401 K is good. So who cares if a lunatic is in the white house, right? A grifting lying groping total embarrassment of a clown.
As for WW3, unemployment and the market give it time. 4 years is a long time. Looking at the continual hubris and utter chaos in the administration this good stuff isn't sustainable, any of it.
It isn't surprising that business has been bullish about the platform of Obamacare repeal and drastic alterations to the taxing and regulation of business.ANY REPUBLICAN president would embrace some form of these things including immigration reform but without all the criminal activity and sideshows and insults of our allies and coddling of strongmen and dictators.As a republican there are things to like about the platform. But for me its always been about the POS himself, not the game plan.
After one of trumps recent gaffes the market lost more in one day than any time since august. It has recovered for now but the longer the guy proves a *republican* president cant get anything done with a republican congress, cant ever stfu, stay off twitter etc. the sooner the end of the Trump bump will arrive and it will be like humpty dumpty i'm afraid.
To me its more important that there is an unhinged buffoon up tweeting misspelled lies and lunacy at 4 AM, blurting top secret intelligence to russian sleazeballs IN THE OVAL OFFICE, blurting out the clandestine location of Nuke Subs to dictator Duerte from the philippines than anything about our economy.
Its more important to me that Trump is raping the treasury along with his trophy wife and privileged kids in total disregard of the emoluments clause than my 401 K over a 4 month span.
But most self centered low information American drive by voters don't care which is how we got where we are.
And all this crap about him being a Russian spy is about the same as Obama and his birther crap or Hilary and her email scandal. A bunch of political pablum to make headlines and give the opposing party time to stall or win more votes.
Trump's just another Republican president looking to reduce corporate taxes via Reagonomics with the usual tag-line of how of it will "trickle down" to the middle class in jobs. Doesn't matter this only works if the tax rate is choking the life out of the private sector as it was in the Roosevelt Depression Era with the 90% insane tax rate, but who wants to use measurable facts and logic when it's so easy to hornswaggle the American public with scandal and dogma.
Oh, and hi. Long time, no see. I just couldn't resist jumping in.
This has to be the dumbest period of American politics in our history.
Aseahawkfan wrote:And all this crap about him being a Russian spy is about the same as Obama and his birther crap or Hilary and her email scandal.
Aseahawkfan wrote:Oh, and hi. Long time, no see. I just couldn't resist jumping in. This has to be the dumbest period of American politics in our history. It makes sense that with the rise of Reality TV, we would eventually have a reality TV star as president. Let's hope Trump is the first and last, though I don't know if these slimy, equivocating lawyers and unaccomplished children of former presidents are much better. It's a bad time for American leadership.
NorthHawk wrote:The bad thing about this President is he might cast a shadow over any other business person that might want to run for the job. Refrains of remember the last
business person we put in power could mean some lost opportunities. As well, people who succeed in business may not want to go through what Trump is dealing
with.
Unfortunately I think he was the wrong business man for the Presidency.
Hawktawk wrote:Its about the man. Its all about the lunatic tweeting incomplete sentences and words that don't exist shortly after midnight just this morning actually.
The plane called America can fly on autopilot for a while but the guy in the cockpit is unable to fly the plane. Its about Trump, the orange apparition.
And I have about 54% of Americans with me in the he's an incompetent nincompoop if not worse camp so you 38%ers can continue to hurl insults at me for my "unhinged" perspective. Its you flying blind .
Shut off Faux and wake up. This MF will fly us into a mountain.
RiverDog wrote:The two former examples couldn't be more different than the latter. The Trump Russian spy theory is out there with the fake moon landings and the CIA blowing up the WTC, and the Obama birther crap was debunked years ago. They are unsubstantiated rumors with no basis in fact. The Hillary email scandal was real and factual to the point where HRC herself has admitted to having made mistakes regarding it. It does not fit with your other two examples and should not be mentioned in the same breath.
Aseahawkfan wrote:The polls predicted a Hilary win. Never rely on news polls to support your opinion, Hawktalk. That was more than proven this last election.
The government officials and private citizens that have the money and tech are taking measures to ensure their privacy isn't circumvented by the Patriot Act given they are the type of people that would be more closely monitored. I think it was well known.
I think it leaked as a way to attack her politically, but was never going to be pushed far enough to jail her due to so many other Washington bigwigs doing the same thing.
Supply-side economics does not work unless the problem is specifically a tax rate that is so high it chokes capital expansion.
Trick question. The wealthy always pay a larger burden by percentage.
I will not help to rebuild some pseudo-feudal system based on wealth in this nation by placing such people on a higher level via Ayn Rand's ridiculous philosophy.
Seahawks4Ever wrote:...Paul Ryan & Mitch McConnell should be hung like the criminals they are.
Average citizens who continue to support Trump should be tarred and feathered and those like Paul Ryan & Mitch McConnell should be hung like the criminals they are.
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