burrrton wrote:Now it looks like repeal and replace is done for and he's blaming those in his own party when its his own bizarre tweeting and intellectual laziness coupled with his dishonesty about everything that was the main factor. Whatever one thinks of Obama care Barack Obama skillfully negotiated it over a year plus with open hearings and an ability to eloquently articulate his vision of what the bill would accomplish.
Holy sh*t.
Yes, let's review a partial list of all these hallmarks of the honest and eloquent passage of a bill:
* "John, I won."
* "If you like your doctor, you can *keep* your doctor. PERIOD."
* "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."
* "We have to pass the bill to find out what's in it."
* Louisiana Purchase
* Cornhusker Kickback
* Google: Jonathan Gruber
* On and on and on and on and on
That piece of sh*t legislation was the most dishonestly argued and passed bill in recent history, and it cost Dems the country. YES, this may very well do the same thing to Republicans, but portraying how O'care was passed as some paragon of virtue is *literally* laughable.
And for the record, I think the Rs may have it coming- once handouts are in place, you can't just yank them away especially when they pertain to health insurance. People plan their lives around such things, so once the cat's out of the bag, you've got your work cut out for you fixing it.
I doubt they as a party are up to it.
I said "whatever you think of obamacare". Personally I hated and still hate the law.I hate that politicians lie remorselessly and people get duped into voting for these slimeballs.Not me I voted for the honest guy Johnson. I don't agree Obamacare specifically cost the Dems the country. Obamas 8 years of malaise and condescension of the leadership role of our nation is what did that. Obama created an atmosphere where the current jackass could get votes from fed up people.
What I meant by skill regarding Obama is that he stayed on message throughout, dishonest as the talking points were. He gave many many eloquent speeches detailing the bill and sounded knowledgeable.
He was able to get enough democrats to pass it with no Republican support too.
As for Trump he spoke in choppy half sentences calling the R and R bill great, wonderful, saying everyone will have great healthcare and it will be cheaper, something that is just mathematically impossible.He is too dense to get into the particulars of any legislative idea. He has made so many conflicting statements regarding health care just in the last few days its mind boggling.
But the most telling statement a month or so ago was him saying "I thought it would be easy" I never thought it would be so hard". He held a Rose garden ceremony to take a victory lap and celebrate passage of the original repeal and replace in the house and 2 weeks later called it mean tossing every congressman under the bus. Then the early morning tweets all over the map about blood and women etc don't help at all. Now he says he "doesn't own it" regarding the failure when of course he does but never admits any mistake.
He tweeted the evening it was scrapped that they would work with democrats then the following morning that we should just let Obamacare fail and do nothing. His repeal only idea was immediately deep sixed by 4 moderate women. This isn't surprising given his leering and inappropriate comments to female reporters, media people and even the french first lady right in front of Melania. Who wants to stake their political future and reputation on this koo koo for cocoa puffs nutbag?
The party is a headless horseman. With the collapse of repeal and replace Trumps loyal media supporters are beginning to flee as well. Along with Faux anchors Wallace and smith Neil Cavuto recently told the president in an op ed commentary he and he alone is to blame for his and his administrations problems. Today I clicked on ultra conservative Drudge report and saw all negative Trump stories for the first time since he announced his candidacy.
Last night Andrew Napolitano said on Faux that Jrs meeting has "possibly the elements of a felony". He has previously been an absolute shill for Trump. Chris Christie said this morning the meeting was "unethical and probably illegal."
The rats are jumping off the sinking ship. When Trump loses Faux he is toast and its happening.
The republicans made a deal with the devil by hiring a man whom many believed lacked the temperament and judgement to be president but they still pulled the lever due to the unpalatable democratic alternative. They sold out for a conservative agenda.
Now that he cant deliver beyond executive orders the trajectory of his presidency is doomed. If he flubs tax reform he's absolutely toast and will be impeached by Republicans prior to 2018 for the Russia thing etc.