NorthHawk wrote:I thought Trump's Presidency would be interesting, but this is more than I and probably almost everyone else expected.
Part of keeping sane might be to consider what you will be able to tell your children or grand children about how it all went down - as long as you can keep a little bit of objectivity and perspective.
Seahawks4Ever wrote:R.D. No "skin" in the game??? Gee whiz Dog, I didn't know that you were NOT an American citizen and that none of your children, grand children, nieces and nephews or anybody else in your family are citizens of the U.S.A. because that would almost be the ONLY way to do not have "skin" in the game. You usually write many of the most intelligent posts in this forum, but your "skin" statement falls very short of your usual quality.
Hawktawk wrote:Obama care isn't going anywhere. Trump butchered repeal and replace with his bizarre behavior and utter cluelessness about policy.He said the senators look like fools. Yeah they do for betting on the biggest fool of all. At some point they need to realize this is going to be an epic do nothing administration other than the borderline racist immigration policies imemented by Kelley who is now taxed with fixing the most Fd up wh in history and Jeff Sessions who trump wants gone .
Wtf did the republicans expect? The chaos president isn't going to change. He's destroying the party but they deserve it.
Largent80 wrote:Rump called Mexicans rapist and criminals at the beginning of his campaign, yet people still casted votes for him, and those votes came WAY after all the other things he said during the entire campaign.
The real losers are the people that put him in there (and their decision affects the rest of us). Instead of moving forward to keeping unemployment going down, and making necessary changes to the ACA, we have THIS s***.
Maybe for his next hire, he should snag someone off of Farmers Only.com.
Old but Slow wrote:Just to maintain my image as a rabble rouser, I have come up with a strategy for our supreme ruler to implement a comeback move that will win over the populace.
If he is smart, and I doubt that, having alienated the GOP, and unhappy with congress, he may choose to go back to an issue he favored a few years back (sorry, no footnotes), when he favored a single payer plan. Medicare for all.
Suddenly, he is a hero for much of the population that disapprove of him now, and he gets sweet revenge on the GOP operatives who failed him in his main promise. And, early on, he said he had a plan that would cover everyone and cost less, but never exhibited it. Here's the answer. Not only does he gain his pound of flesh from the GOP, but he beats the Dems at their new best idea.
Nah!
NorthHawk wrote:What a lot of people don't factor in with a single payer system is it gives business a big break.
Consider how much middle and large businesses pay to retain salaried and union staff where paying for their health care is part of the bargaining strategies with some even paying for insurance for retirees.
If we go back 30 or more years, it's a big reason why the big 3 automakers put plants in Ontario Canada or expanded there instead of Detroit.
At one point GM was the largest insurance provider in North America. It wasn't exactly a core element of their business, but took up a lot of resources nonetheless.
NorthHawk wrote:The point I was trying to make was for those businesses that pay for employees health coverage it's a burden that impacts their operations and focus to some degree.
It's very important when considering businesses that have to compete internationally where the rest of the western world's businesses don't have to contend with
these types of expenses.
Largent80 wrote:Here ya go.... Todays tidbit.....Hahahahahahaha.
Maybe he will suck his own cock now. C'Mon Ostrich Monkey, pull your head out and party with all of us.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/anthony-scar ... 58404.html
The White House is in tatters, but the nation and the globe is taking a minute and laugh at the most hysterical rise and fall the world of politics has seen in possibly ever.
c_hawkbob wrote:Best quote yet:
"The White House is in tatters, but the nation and the globe is taking a minute and laugh at the most hysterical rise and fall the world of politics has seen in possibly ever."
RiverDog wrote:
With all due respects to Hawktalk, you really do need to look at the Trump presidency with a sense of humor. I've never seen an organization as dysfunctional as the Trump White House. They remind me of the Keystone Cops.
I anticipated a lot of things about a Trump presidency, particularly with regard to the failure of Republicans to line up behind him. But the biggest thing I didn't anticipate was this mass chaos that's inflicted his organization. He's a businessman, and I assumed that he had a little better sense as to how to make the trains run on time. I thought Slick Willy's organizational skills were bad when he first took over the White House in '93, but Trump takes the cake.
Old but Slow wrote:My view, at this point, is that Donald is most concerned about money laundering. Things like collusion can be softened by diplomacy, but when you are talking about real money there is less room for equivocating.
It is not insignificant that Mueller has brought in attorneys experienced in prosecuting money laundering.
It is also significant that Trump was unable to get financing for his ventures from US banks.
For me the answer is image. Advertising and promotions have dominated news and facts for a while now, and we are fertilizing a generation of watchers. I see young people focused in on their devices, while walking into traffic, and I wonder where we are going?
OK, that was a bit disjointed, but still honest. Peace.
Hawktawk wrote:And RD as someone who apparently thought Trump would bring order to the oval office good lord man weren't you paying attention the least 40 years of this guys public life!!!!!!???.
NorthHawk wrote:Whether Mueller finds enough evidence for there to be impeachment proceedings (more of a political event than legal) is unknown at this point and even if he is impeached, will there be enough support
to remove him from office?
It's going to remain interesting for the foreseeable future is the only thing we know for sure.
RiverDog wrote:And RD as someone who apparently thought Trump would bring order to the oval office good lord man weren't you paying attention the least 40 years of this guys public life!!!!!!???.
RiverDog wrote:[
There's also the possibility that Trump could resign, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
If he is impeached, it would take 67 votes in the Senate to remove him from office. Under the current math, it would take 19 Republican senators, or 36% of them, to join all 46 Dems and 2 independents to vote him out. It's going to take some very compelling evidence, along with about a 25% approval rating, to cause that kind of a shift.
And speaking of Mueller, there hasn't been a lot of information leaked out of his investigation yet. Either he has some very disciplined associates or there isn't anything substantial yet.
Hawktawk wrote:I could see Mueller drop a bombshell any day now there is plenty of evidence of collusion, obstruction and IMO treason.
As for the Repubs when its time to impeach it will happen. Even Rasmussen Has trump below 39% and some have him at 35% or lower. The legislative agenda is not happening.At some point why protect the guy anymore?
The rats will jump off the sinking ship eventually, they will have no option.
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