c_hawkbob wrote:If we lost it you'd sure be casting it as huge.
You could watch a thousand games and never see a play like that. We were luckier than a 3-peckered Billy goat in a herd of sheep.
I wouldn't categorize Kupp's incompletion in the end zone as a drop. He laid out for it and was fully extended when it bounced off his fingertips. It would have been a fantastic catch had he held on. Goff led him too much.
Hawk Sista wrote:I think most people would say we are leading the NFC West, or at minimum -tied with the advantage. They were sure makes g that point on Hawk Talk post game on 710. I’m not quite sure why you’d argue that. We need to win the West, first & foremost. Losing that game, while it wouldn’t have necessarily been season over, it would have been tough to overcome a two game hole AND losing the tie-break advantage.
burrrton wrote:Haven't we seen that play or similar made by this D twice in the last few years? Not saying it's a great strategy to rely on, but just pointing out that "luck" always seems to come to those who put themselves in position for it to happen (which, by the way, applies to the rest of our lives as well).
Aseahawkfan wrote:Beating the Rams on the road is a big deal. Now they have to come to our house and win to even it up. That isn't easy. I would have agreed with Riverdog if we had beaten the Rams at home, but that is expected. Beating the Rams on the road is an important win, very important. It sets up us up very well for taking the division and guaranteeing at least one home game. It's not everything, but this win was an important and valuable win.
RiverDog wrote:I never said it wasn't a big win, on the contrary, it's huge, home or away. The Rams have always been a tough out for us, as they were yesterday, and it's nice to get that one behind us.
But make no mistake: We have a lot of work to do if we are to get back to the SB.
What I think you are referring to was a few years ago when Megatron fumbled at the goal line when Kam batted it away and it went out of the end zone (courtesy KJ), but it wasn't this momentary loss/regain control right at the pylon thing. We got damn lucky.
Zorn76 wrote:"We won and it showed that our OL is SLOWLY getting better. But we won, we are tied and we are freaking miracle!!"
- obiken
obiken...with all due respect...
The OL still needs a near COMPLETE overhaul at season's end.
The idea that this group is worth gelling and will improve in the future, is precisely the kind of thinking that landed us in this predicament to begin with. The OL has flashes here and there, but nothing that merits a notion that they're going to get better. It's been a major problem now since 2015.
Aseahawkfan wrote:That could be said of anyone. I'm not seeing any powerhouse teams yet. Just some teams starting real well. Every team has weaknesses. If our offense can get better, we'll be a top 3 contender, we're probably top 5 to 8 right now.
Zorn76 wrote:id,
I would say that part of this (OL evaluation) process is hindered by Cable's ineptitude at large. Or to put it another way, he stinks. Bad. So in that context I would agree more to your point - that with sh**** coaching it's difficult to ascertain what you got.
Ultimately, though, it doesn't change the fact that there really isn't much worth keeping of this group.
Anyone would be hard pressed to make a legit case for Infedi, Glowinski, Reec, or even Fant at this point. It doesn't wash. These guys have shown next to Nothing as starters.
And this is why it's absolutely Crucial to keep flushing the OL toilet until we purge ourselves of the crap that remains. The Only recent exception has been Britt, but he's a 100 to 1 shot example.
You can't polish a turd. And right now, overall, that's exactly what our OL has been going on 3 yrs now.
Aseahawkfan wrote:That (a lot of work to do to get to SB) could be said of anyone. I'm not seeing any powerhouse teams yet. Just some teams starting real well. Every team has weaknesses. If our offense can get better, we'll be a top 3 contender, we're probably top 5 to 8 right now.
The game reminded me of any number of games in 2013.
burrrton wrote:
This is worth remembering. We waxed a few teams that year, including the last game of the year (:)), so I think that tends to warp perception, but we were in a lot of squeakers and clunkers considering we were generally considered the best team in the NFL from start to finish.
obiken wrote:We can easily come out of the bye and run 3 or 4 in a row. Not counting the Skins.
It's pretty hard to make comparisons at this point in our current season, but it helps to remember just how dominating we were in 2013.
burrrton wrote:We ended up winning a lot of games, but Indy hung 34 on us, we needed a near-miraculous comeback to beat a winless TB team in OT, and we were a .500 team over the last quarter of the season.
That's nitpicking because it *was* dominating by NFL standards, but again, there were points throughout that season that gave some of us pause.
This is worth remembering. We waxed a few teams that year, including the last game of the year (:)), so I think that tends to warp perception, but we were in a lot of squeakers and clunkers considering we were generally considered the best team in the NFL from start to finish.
burrrton wrote:Oh for Pete's sake- I'm not trying to *equate* the two, and it probably wasn't as bad as I recall, but there *were* some games and periods of the season where we didn't look like the juggernaut we all assumed they were (and in hindsight they turned out to be).
It's just a throwaway observation/reminder that not every game is utter domination from start to finish, even for a dominating team.
Hawk Sista wrote:And night games at the Clink have been pretty damned phenomenal since Pete arrived. That is why I included that info in the data above...both the home Niner game and the MNF tilt against the Saints you reference were night games. Since Carroll came to town, the Hawks’ prime-time record is 20-3-1 which is best in the NFL by a mile. With our home record and them being night games (the second with a lot at stake), the Hawks were huge favorites.
I understand all of the points being made about our predicament. Just understand that I am not at all comfortable with it.
burrrton wrote:Yeah, we're still waiting for that adequate play from our o-line....
RiverDog wrote:We've been waiting for 2.25 years for adequate play from our O-line. I feel as if I'm waiting for Santa Claus to come down my chimney.
RiverDog wrote:We've been waiting for 2.25 years for adequate play from our O-line. I feel as if I'm waiting for Santa Claus to come down my chimney.
burrrton wrote:...if you're looking for a reason to take the pistol out of your mouth, one exists.
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