RiverDog wrote:We have to be the poorest losers in the league. I'm done with that POS Michael Bennett. Cut his ass!
mykc14 wrote:You mean our nomination for Walter Payton man of the year?? What a joke.
I-5 wrote:That was Jefferson that the fans threw beer on, and then he went towards the stands.
RiverDog wrote:We have to be the poorest losers in the league. I'm done with that POS Michael Bennett. Cut his ass!
Aseahawkfan wrote:I'd like to hear the provocation first. Sheldon Richardson is known to have a short fuse. Too bad we lost Wagner, he's the leader of the defense. Once he went out, things fell apart.
Aseahawkfan wrote:I'd like to hear the provocation first. Sheldon Richardson is known to have a short fuse. Too bad we lost Wagner, he's the leader of the defense. Once he went out, things fell apart.
Sox-n-hawks wrote:Eff that. I don't want this team to get good at losing.
Largent80 wrote:Go ahead and be embarrased. I'm not....You have no idea of what was going on during the game, the dirty play that Jax was allowed to get away with and especially in the trenches. It's men bashing against each other with violence, not patty cake.
mykc14 wrote:I don’t know about losing control of the team. We are poor losers, but it’s not a unique problem with us or PC. The Patriots also have issues at the end of games sometimes and have players yelling at coaches, etc... It’s a high intensity game played by alpha males. I don’t like the way we lose but it seems like that’s what you get when you have a bunch of guys who play that close to the edge. I certainly don’t feel like it’s PC losing control or anything.
Largent80 wrote:I would like to hear an explanation of what happened during the game not being relevant.
I don’t know about losing control of the team. We are poor losers, but it’s not a unique problem with us or PC. The Patriots also have issues at the end of games sometimes and have players yelling at coaches, etc... It’s a high intensity game played by alpha males. I don’t like the way we lose but it seems like that’s what you get when you have a bunch of guys who play that close to the edge. I certainly don’t feel like it’s PC losing control or anything.
Hawktawk wrote:Imo Seattle had every right to try to dislodge the ball in a 1 score game and to do that they have to intercept the snap. It’s legal to keep playing and I’ve heard veteran players saying today that it’s clear to offensive players whether the d is coming or not and they need to protect themselves . I’ve seen Seattle do it before although I’ve never seen them succeed.
Obviously the problem was when the whistle blew and they kept going . The refs stunk and completely lost control of the game.
Jax is a bunch of punks that were lucky Russ had his D- game for 3 quarters . The errors were mostly unforced rookie style panic throws like he morphed into Deshone Kizer. If he plays decent Seattle wins easily .
RiverDog wrote:
It's certainly debatable, and none of us are close enough to the locker room to get a good feel of just how much control Pete has or doesn't have over his players relative to other teams in the league.
But you can't deny that it has been an issue that has dogged Pete going all the way back to his days at USC. You can't say the same thing about Belichek. This has happened before, at the end of SB 49, which was a lot more emotionally charged than this garden variety regular season game. I also don't know of Belichek having players refuse to go into a game like Pete had with Percy Harvin.
IMO it's the atmosphere of permissiveness that is promoted by Pete that provides the environment in which something like this can happen.
RiverDog wrote:[
How many teams have you seen recover a fumble or intercept a snap in a kneel down situation? The whistle blows a split second after the snap in a kneel down, so unless the QB fumbles the exchange, something that I've never seen since the Eagles beat the Giants decades ago on a fumbled exchange, the event that led to what is now known as the victory formation, the game was over the instant they lined up.
But I agree with your last paragraph. This game isn't close if Russell plays anywhere near his average play.
Hawktawk wrote:Watch Bennett at the end of SB 49 if you can stomach it. He attempted to time the snap and leap over and tackle Brady in the end zone before he could get in the field of play .Unfortunately he jumped the snap as usual effectively taking Seattle off life support.
He tried to do the same thing to Rivers a couple of years ago in a similar situation .
I agree it’s a one in a million shot but so is the lotto . Someone is gonna win someday and I don’t mind my team doing all they can to win.
It’s the extracurricular stuff that bothers me along with the fact Bennett is making 10 mil
or so and he’s disappeared for the most part since other players are injured.
Obviously our guy can’t go into the stands but I don’t blame him for trying and wish he’d have caught the punk in a way. Someone who will throw beer on a 300 lb football player needs his face smashed.’
I remember something like that in an NBA game in the day.
Im wondering what we will see next week and will guys be suspended.
mykc14 wrote:The Patriots had multiple players fined for the end of SB 49 as well. What happened when Harvin refused to go back into the Cowboys game? He was immediately traded. There are other examples of players not falling into Pete's system who have been cut/traded.
RiverDog wrote:
Pete has been very successful with his philosophy and I wouldn't trade him for any other coach in the league, but his style does have its downside, part of which was on display yesterday afternoon.
Largent80 wrote:This is the way I view it. If you are embarassed, the door is right THERE, get your ass out of it and don't look back.
Largent80 wrote:LOL, a lot of garbage about people that play ball and from people that don't.
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