Aseahawkfan wrote:
One thing I've learned over the years is never assume your personal view carries to others. There are still huge number of highly religious, conservative Rs that will vote for Trump again. People vote as part of a team as much because of agreeable politics as hate for the other team. Hate for the Democrats and their social and financial views will drive votes as much as anything else. Let's be real: people are tired of Social Justice Warriors. After this giant show of sexual misconduct, you think the anti-Social Justice Warrior movement won't continue. Look who is getting hammered by this movement, and it's not the Rs and the right. It's the left wing and Democrats who have to answer to female voters. Females don't vote Republican in as large of numbers, so why care that much? That's why Roy Moore can keep on running and Trump is barely affected. Right wing and Rs don't care that much about a bunch of women crying about being touched or groped. But the Democrats and the left wing have a bunch of feminist voters to answer to. That's why they have to aggressively punish left wing media figures and politicians. Keeping such people will have a much worse effect on the Democrats. Democrats will likely have an even worse time vetting candidates now given how many men in power like to be inappropriate with women regardless of political affiliation.
I'm betting the anti-Social Justice Warrior movement and Republicans are enjoying watching the Democrats and left wing media feed on their own. If you were still voting Republican, you'd probably be having a grand old time watching Al Franken resign and many left wing media figures forced out as well as Hollyweird get slammed. Democrats and the left wing are taking a much bigger hit in this sexual assault tsunami than the Rs. Much, much worse.
As far as Trump getting impeached for some misconduct garbage from years ago, not likely to happen. Someone better have ironclad proof, not just hearsay and chatter based on the tape of a blowhard. Trump's own defense attorney would have zero trouble proving Trump's a liar that tells a lot of tall tales like you hear on that tape. His blowhard status would help him in court.
Thats a lot to answer. I see it like this. This is gonna be long
Dems have been on the wrong side of this issue for 20+years. But something clearly changed after Harvey Weinstein. Its not Nov 2016 anymore. This assault controversy is not going away.
How can we have people from all walks of life including politics resigning, being forced out or investigated and Trump skates? He was supposed to sue all those liars right? They are daring him.
Dems have drawn a clear distinction between themselves and the Grand Old Pervs as they have sacked everyone, cleared the decks. They are more than willing to toss an unwilling Franken overboard so that they could draw this distinction. Meanwhile 3 credibly accused Republican predators remain untouchable, Blake Farenthold, Roy Moore and Trump himself .
I just marvel at anyone who hears Trump on tape and listens to the 14 women and believe a Fing word out of his mouth about the topic.That doesn't include his comments to Stern bragging about walking in on Jr miss universe and miss universe contestants undressed in the locker rooms "because I own the pageant so I'm inspecting it. I can kind of get away with that."2 accusers were contestants in his pageants and said he did exactly that including a partially nude 15 year old.
What a fascinating elaborately choreographed piece of political espionage with so many people saying he did what HE said he did!!!!!!yeah it was the democrats hiring a ventriloquist to fake his voice and rounding up 14 women in a matter of a couple of days..Maybe they used a radio wave to force him to confess to media people hes a groper.
Explaining any of it away as an old blowhard making stuff up is what I meant by fanatical irrational defense of the Groper.Yes he's a blowhard GROPER so infused with a sense of entitlement and power he believes he can say and do whatever he wants. He's so messed in the head he thinks it's not only ok to do these illegal things but brag to public media people about it. Frankly I think a prosecuting attorney would be able to bring charges against anyone else with this scenario of taped admission and verification by victims.
As for Impeachment I'm almost certain Mueller is on the trail of impeachable offenses and already has the goods based on who is singing and the careless stupidity of the Trump team with electronic communications.
This is just getting started and with the people who have flipped, the known tweets, timeline, facts almost certainly show obstruction. Mueller has access to Trump's bank records etc which will likely show corruption.
Republican supporters of the Pres like FAUX and his far right buddies in congress are trying to smear Mueller months after calling him an excellent impartial choice. They may try to fire him. Trump has pressured Sessions to appoint a counsel to investigate the investigator so who knows.They know what's up and where its headed.If there were nothing there why appear obstructionist?They are scared witless..
I think Mueller will have his findings before the midterm and will present impeachable offenses to Ryan. I doubt Ryan will do anything much as the Dem senate refused to remove Clinton. Thats where the women voters and the millennials and the democrats and disaffected never trumpers come in. Does a guy with impeachable offenses and credible accusations of groping from 14 woman get another term or even finish his term?
As I say the only purple state national referendum was in Virginia and women overperformed by almost 20 points for democrats who overperformed by 10 points and buried the GOP in a statewide landslide including flipping the state legislature. It's a long time to Nov but I think the Repubs are in deep doo doo one way or another.The tapes of Roy Moore and Trump endorsing him will be in every race in the country.
And its not helpful when he pops off like today's tweet to Sen Kirsten Gillibrand who called on his resignation saying she is a "lightweight" Begged for campaign contributions and "would do anything to get them". Finished the text calling her "USED!" Good luck with that Trump. This is one of the Democratic hopefuls hes taking on, an attractive well spoken Senator who is positioning herself beautifully for 20. He will not win this fight.
This is not going away, its only going to get worse with the escalator in chief on twitter.
I think its going to matter.I think people care more than you think.